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Here we go again, How is the midfield of the team top of the league crap?
We are short of a creative, possesion keeping Centre Mid. Other than that we have the personel in place.
If scholes was 25 right now, and was playing every game we would look a different side.
So we need to replace him.
Fair enough, it is not easy to replace a player like Scholes.
But we are going to do it.

It's crap for the same reason I've said it's crap. Fir the sheer fact that our opposition, when we are away have consistently been able to dominate the ball and cause us all sorts of problems. Have you watched us this season? I ask you this because, had you watched us away from home this year, you would appreciate my concerns. We shouldn't be looking to replace Scholes now. It should have been done. His age hasn't crept up from nowhere.
 
We had the ****ing easiest champions league group we have had for years. Rangers who are bloody awful, valencia are no more than a two bob average side and were extremely fortunate to beat them, hwo many points did they finish off the big two last year? And bursapor, probably the worst team in the history of the champions league.

Don't you think thats a little disrespectful towards those teams? What about the other 19 Premier league clubs which we are beating .
 
Some OTT comments in this thread. The title is between Arsenal & United. Chelsea will not win the league, I will bet my house on that. United's midfield is awful but they can still grind out results. the problem today is they came up against a team that matched them for graft and work rate and got unlucky. i have seen many people seeing that this was united's worse performance of the season. well that is complete and utter bollox. how you won at blackpool i do no understand and you should have lost at west brom too. the fact is united have a winning mentality instilled in their squad that makes up for their technical defficiencies (whereas arseanl have plenty of technique but a **** defeatist mentality). complete overreaction imo, fletcher is a good player but is in awful form, anderson is a good player but for whatever reason does not get a consistent run in the team. carrick is **** on the ball but off it he is a good player and park is a lot better than people give him credit for. giggs is past it, scholes is past it (understandedly) and valencia will not contribute this season but nani is the best winger in the league. united do not have a midfield as good as arsenal or chelsea but they make up for it in other departments which is why they are top of the league. i have been saying it all along, no team in this league is special and whoever wins the league will be the best of a bad bunch. i said that 79 points would win the league this season and i was laughed at but mark my words the eventual champions of this league will score 81 points at the highest and the reason for that is that nobody in this league is special.

Apologies Batman. beginning to think I overestimated us. I always knew we were poor in midfield but thought we'd have enough to scrape results and win the league. Don't rule out Chelsea yet.
 
Don't you think thats a little disrespectful towards those teams? What about the other 19 Premier league clubs which we are beating .

No I dont. Everything I said about them is true. I call it as I see it. Why would I lie just to show respect to teams that dont deserve it. 2 of those teams are ****ing god awful and the other is plain average. We should have won every game in that group stage. We didnt. I dont understand why everyone is saying its some sort of acheivement to be in the last 16 of the champions league for us this year, we had the easiest group possible, it would have been a disgrace had we not qualified. Of course were going to go through playing championship and league league 1 standard teams.
 
No I dont. Everything I said about them is true. I call it as I see it. Why would I lie just to show respect to teams that dont deserve it. 2 of those teams are ****ing god awful and the other is plain average. We should have won every game in that group stage. We didnt. I dont understand why everyone is saying its some sort of acheivement to be in the last 16 of the champions league for us this year, we had the easiest group possible, it would have been a disgrace had we not qualified. Of course were going to go through playing championship and league league 1 standard teams.

Were not beating all of those 19 teams though are we? Drawn with about ten of them.
 
It's crap for the same reason I've said it's crap. Fir the sheer fact that our opposition, when we are away have consistently been able to dominate the ball and cause us all sorts of problems. Have you watched us this season? I ask you this because, had you watched us away from home this year, you would appreciate my concerns. We shouldn't be looking to replace Scholes now. It should have been done. His age hasn't crept up from nowhere.

Batmanu, in a way, sums up my point. We haven't the flair players such as Fabregas in our side, But we do have efficient, workers who are disciplined. They rarely dwell on the ball, prefering feeding our flair players further up.
The 0-0 game against Rangers, for example, highlights our need for a creative, passer type midfielder. One of those to sit alongside our workers.

You seem to think I am suggesting our midfield is good.
I'm Not. it is poor, and lacks creativity and movement to balance with our work-rate.

It is poor, and needs addressing, But to call it crap?
 
Batmanu, in a way, sums up my point. We haven't the flair players such as Fabregas in our side, But we do have efficient, workers who are disciplined. They rarely dwell on the ball, prefering feeding our flair players further up.
The 0-0 game against Rangers, for example, highlights our need for a creative, passer type midfielder. One of those to sit alongside our workers.

You seem to think I am suggesting our midfield is good.
I'm Not. it is poor, and lacks creativity and movement to balance with our work-rate.

It is poor, and needs addressing, But to call it crap?

In terms of looking to win the league, and in terms of sitting on your hands and saying you're happy with what you have, it is. It really is. They aren't capable of keeping the ball off any other top flight team and that makes them (relatively) crap.
 
its all relative

who are you comparing it to?

the Arsenal Invincibles? the current Barcelona?

or Birmingham City and West Ham

just saying its crap is not enough
 
Thus far. You've been given due warning. Now's the time to air your grievances about us standing still and feel free to glance admiringly at Chelsea's team.

Chelsea have a considerable gap to make up to both us and Arsenal before i get too woried about them.
Remember the start of the season woth chelsea winning 6 nil every game. They were invincible title certaintys then too. look how that turned out.
 
Barcelona are the best, tehrefore the benchmark. In comparrison, its fully blown crap. Lord help us if we meet them in the champions league. Hopefully they will have an off day, we might only lose 2-0. If not we will get bleeping smashed.
 
Barcelona are the best, tehrefore the benchmark. In comparrison, its fully blown crap. Lord help us if we meet them in the champions league. Hopefully they will have an off day, we might only lose 2-0. If not we will get bleeping smashed.

Compared to Barca Everyone has a crap midfield.
 
Barcelona are the best, tehrefore the benchmark. In comparrison, its fully blown crap. Lord help us if we meet them in the champions league. Hopefully they will have an off day, we might only lose 2-0. If not we will get bleeping smashed.

We could have essien, Sneidjer and fabregas in our midfield, and we still would lose.
Might spending Madrid lost 5-0. So Ozil, Di maria and Xavi Alonso must be Crap?
Who are we fooling?
If you are expecting us to rival Barcelona then you are mistaken.
 
It isn't. But Chelsea are going to sweep up points like your finest Dyson. We just have to hold them up because we've made no effort to improve upon our crap midfield and we still have to play Chelsea twice. They will win it and when they do, no one will take this value nonsense seriously any longer.
 
To be honest this summer will make or Break the future of United.
Could go one of two ways....

Should have been addressed sooner and would have been done by now had it not been for our bestowed "cast of Wrong Turn" owners. Glazers are ****s and one look at our revenue v expenditure figures will tell you that, regardless of what fergie says.