Dirty tackling: stop the excuses

You cannot talk about cabaye being "theatrical".. there WAS excessive contact... he WAS injured... the medical teams confirmed this. so what he stood up afterwards.. have you not heard of instinct? he got up walked what 1 yard.. maybe 2 pushed someone and then you see soon has he puts any real pressure onto his foot he has to go down.

the medical teams assessment was the reason for the stretcher.. the players dont assess what the injury is.

oh and the cabaye spearing thing... get the **** over it.. like others have said spearing goes in like a mad man when he didn't need to.. how the **** could cabaye read that moment and think im gonna stamp on him when spearing came in from the side and at that pace and thats not even mentioning the blatant FACT (its on the video) cabayes eyes are locked on the ball!!!... its like charging and throwing your head under someones foot as they are walking and claiming they stamped on your head.. or throwing yourself under a bus and claiming dangerous driving

 

I can. It's a forum.

 

Agree with this. In the heat of the moment you often don't realise that you're injured with the adrenalin pumping. Ray Wilkins did my head in when he went on and on about that. It's a bit rich coming from that Chelsea boy with Drogba et al doing it week in week out.

 

..also jonas isnt a "diver" he runs into channels and areas where he knows there is going to be a bit of contact then if there is no profitable outlet he will go down very easily when brief contact is made. diving.. no, cheating... debatable, Intelligent.. deffinatly

 

Call me simple but aren't these like virtually the same???

 

nope.. contact with a player = no dive. its dishonest if you can stay on your feet, but a dive is when there is no contact

 

You've got to be kidding right? Take off your B&W specs, he dives every game! He goes down easily and theatrically all the time.

 

I can and will accuse Cabaye of being theatrical yesterday because he was. I'm not on about him not carrying on, we have to take his word that he was unable to. But in terms of his reaction to Derry's tackle he was way over the top about a standard football challenge. It particularly doesn't sit well when he has committed several worse himself this year.

 

There is a difference between going down easily and diving.. i explained this if you had expanded your selective "bolding" to the part where i talked about contact.

and cabaye reacted in a natural manner to having a foot slammed into your ankle at pace in a rather late tackle that flung you into the air... id say getting pissed off is pretty ****ing natural for that event

 

Aye but Cabaye went on and on whining like a little bitch. If you're injured, fair enough, leave the pitch. But he'd already told Derry he wasn't happy with the tackle by jumping up, pushing him in the back and shouting at him. He then refused Derry's apology (which is up to him) and then bitched all the way off the pitch. I can imagine the reaction on these boards if an opposing player had gone on like Cabaye!

As for Jonas he does both. He dives and goes down easily. To say he doesn't dive is laughable for me. He does and he does it a lot. Maybe you are fooled by how good he is at it but there is no getting away from it, he's a diver. We'll have to agree to disagree here because Newcastle player or not, a diver is a diver. Steven Gerrard does the exact same thing for Liverpool when he gets anywhere near the box.

 

In my day you could slide in with both feet raised, take the ball and the player, get up whilst standing on the oposition players knackers and hoof it upfield off his ready made tee and then do it again and again and again for 90 minutes.

It all changed though when we moved up a year to the school under 12's

 

How dare you be sensible or rational on a forum! Very much agree.

I believe most if not all players are hypocritical, and are all prone to complain about something which they just got away with five seconds ago, and that stretches to fans to, but I'm not going to call Cabaye theatrical for getting up then collapsing again. Anyone who does clearly has never been injured in a dispute or fight, the first thing you do after the adrenalin surge is over is say "oh feck me that hurt"...

Cabaye could have acted a bit more professionally when he was leaving the pitch, however.

Anyway, I really only wished to comment on that Spearing tackle. Every time I see it, and I've strained numerous times to free myself of prejudice, it looks less and less like a horror tackle. Simply looks like he's gone for the ball strongly and Spearing's crunching tackle has gone through the ball and stopped under Cabaye's boot. The fact he hasn't "pulled out" owes more to the fact you've got the play in X 1/1000you idiots. I'd give a yellow if I was a ref, but wouldn't dream of giving a red for that. I actually thought Tiote's areial challenge was worse!

On the other hand, Derry went in without looking at the ball and thus it's obvious he was just trying to stop the player. A bit of a cowardly tackle, probably still a yellow though.

 

I was playing football and went into a 50/50 challenge. No intent to harm was shown but I ended up on the ground without the ball and instantly jumped up to find and chase the ball to get it back.

I managed to stumble maybe 5/10 feet before the pain in my knee floored me.

Turns out I'd ripped all the ligaments, torn the knee cartidge in half and splintered the shin bone so that small pieces of bone had torn through the membrane around the knee joint and were being crushed under my knee cap.

It is possible to get up and try to continue before the extent to an injury can be felt.

 

Exactly. A team mate of mine scored a goal with a diving header and took a kick to the head in doing so. He sprang to his feet ran around like a maniac celebrating the goal and then ran back towards the centre circle for the restart, telling everybody who asked that he was fine.

It was only when he lined up with the opposition that we realised he wasn't. By the time somebody had the chance to get to him to ask again he had collapsed and was unconscious with severe concussion.

Adrenalin is a marvellous thing for delaying the onset of injury.

 

I don't think anyone would dispute that you can be injured in a tackle and still jump and complain. Adrenaline is a funny thing afterall. I must admit I'm not convinced at all that this was the case but will take Cabayes word for it. I have done the jumping up thing myself, before realising he'd actually done my ankle. Mind I didn't manage to play the next which I suspect Cabaye will.

 

My school PE teacher instilled the tactic of giving the player you marked a kick during the first tackle of the game so that he knew he was in for a battle. You pretty much had to take an axe to a player to get a yellow card in those days.

Ah ... sweet memories!

 

Fantastic bit of evolution. We have just enough time to run away from whatever's trying to kill us before we collapse.

 

With you on this one Warm Pouch.

 

Yeah.

 

ok, it doesn't always work. But it must work some of the time.