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Diego Poyet

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by ForestHillBilly, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. typical

    typical Well-Known Member

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    "Jim it was either this post or the other one where I got trapped in a time warp dealing with your whining' maybe it's because as you rightly say I'm an sad old man.

    The point remains why is Poyet on the verge of leaving? Whose to blame? You? Me?
     
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  2. CAFC TED

    CAFC TED Well-Known Member

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    Non of us are to blame
     
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  3. Captain Blackaddick

    Captain Blackaddick Well-Known Member

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    That he hasn't signed a new contract yet doesn't necessarily mean he's on the verge of leaving. If he does leave without any offer of a new contract then I would say RD would be to blame. Powell has, perhaps belatedly, given him his chance in the first team which he has grabbed with both hands, and I assume he won't drop him now.

    There's still time for him to sign a new deal, and he may well do. I don't know what he's thinking about his future at the moment, and our only clue is what he says in interviews (unless you know any better).

    Maybe that's wishful thinking though.
     
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  4. Jimmy The Addick

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    Do you actually go out of your way to give off such an arsey attitude? You could have said "Who do you think is to blame Jimmy?" to start with but you never seem to just ask do you.

    I personally do not feel the blame can be put on one party. The last board could and should have offered him a new deal before the funds dried up, and now we have the new owners, they should be asking Powell who he thinks needs a new deal. And if that were the case, Powell should be making it clear Poyet is a must. We do not know what is going on really, so we cannot say for sure what is going on with a new deal for him. All we can say for sure is it has sod all to do with fans, which was the point of my response in the first place.

    I have no problem with your views Typical, i have a problem with your attitude. You have insulted me based on my views on a topic before even asking me what my views are. May i ask you why you need to do that to not just me, but so many people on here?
     
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  5. typical

    typical Well-Known Member

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    You have to blame someone this is a business not a boys club. Everyone has a job, some bodies job is to keep our best players, those that can't do it need to be replaced.

    The bloke that did not sign the Beatles, the guy that left MI5 secrets on a bus, a Dalek climbing off a dustbin every body makes mistakes, I only ask that people pay for them and not hide behind excuses or are protected by childish adoration or political viewpoints

    Jim your right but I am arsey, that's what I do when people get sarcastic or rude.
     
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  6. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's down to the manager not recognising Poyet's potential, which should have been staring him in the face. I've had two bovrils today, by the way.
     
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  7. Jimmy The Addick

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    Sarcasm is more often than not light hearted though isn't it? If i have ever come across as rude to you in the past it was not intentional unless i made it pretty clear. I get along with most people, i am very opinionated but i like speaking to people who have different views to me. When discussed properly it gives me a chance to look at things from a different way and maybe see things slightly different off myself as well.

    Back to the Poyet thing, i completely agree that of course someone is to blame, we just do not know yet who it is. If Powell has the funds available to offer him a new deal and has not, i will be one of the first to say that is a stupid move by Powell. I do not think the sun shines out of his Millwall despite what some seem to think, i just disagree that he is to blame for our position etc
     
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  8. typical

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    A ship sinks. Lloyd of London do not blame the cook. You look at the captain. Irrespective of funds, or personnel, the manager is taking my money to provide a service. That service is poor, if you can't provide a service your stealing money. If your not trying your stealing, if your incompetent, your fair game to get the piss ripped out of you. As does those that support such incompetence. Or use their political views to allow such failing.

    Football is about the next generation on and off the pitch, cafc send out the wrong message and that I find intolerable , to try and fail is honourable, not to try at all is an insult. Signing Poyet will be a sign that they are trying, not signing him is contrary to the doctrine of our supposed next generation chairman, hence we are being lied to by him.
     
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  9. Jimmy The Addick

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    Yes but who is to blame for not signing Poyet was the question, and i cannot blame anyone just yet with any real clarity. I can say RD should have offered him a new one already, but you could say he shouldn't have to worry about it because he should already have been offered one ages ago. There is no one individual that can be blamed is all i am saying
     
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  10. typical

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    Chris Powell has been at this job three years. He is not learning his trade anymore. He is not cutting his teeth. He learnt from the master, Curbs said "to be a successful manager you got to know everything that goes on, from who in the team is not sleeping at night, to who changes the bog roll in the dressing room" Powell gets too much, " oh he is learning " He is not. No more obvious mistakes. Poyet made a tackle yesterday that bobby Moore would have orgasmed over, if you ask those that do the Monday afternoon games they will tell you that happens every week and yet Powell left it this long?

    Come on, another Powell blooper. He almost got the subs right yesterday, do we have to tell him how to manage with alphabet spaghetti?
     
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  11. CAFC TED

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    Almost got them right? What did he get wrong?
     
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    typical Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Greeny should have come out for the second half. Church who for me is an leaburn was spent. He should have come off ten minutes earlier.

    Yet we won. So I can't complain but football is opinion, we would have won more convincingly if Cp had the balls to go for it! it was obvious QPR had nothing more to offer after 60 minutes.
     
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  13. CAFC TED

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    Church kept running all day long as usual, was much better than Reza, really can't see what the fuss is about him, but that was the first time I've seen him play so I won't rule him out.

    Green's long throws were what kept him on but hey ho,
    only problem I had was that Wilson stayed at RB and Cousins at RM when Harriot came on, I think it should have been Wilson RM and Cousins RB, apart from that Powell's subs for once were spot on
     
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    typical Well-Known Member

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    But from a hindsight point of view. Had we drawn that game I would have been angry. I like Churchy I sort of like Greeny, but we played these hands too long. We had qpr at 60 minutes, they were looking clueless without Austin and Barton, I guess they have no teeth and it took Powell 90 minutes to undo them. I was not the only one on the ground that thought that we were leaving it too long. Reza I think needed 60 mins but agree.
     
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    <laugh>It is utterly hilarious that someone who likes beef drinks and wears a bargain jacket from Sports Direct is to blame for young Diego's contract predicament. <laugh>

    The surrealism is a real mind-bender.
     
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  16. ForestHillBilly

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    That's the point, he should have been tied up on a contract ages ago, but Sir Chris didn't know how good he was. Not just me, others on 'ere did, like AHLL and Dickplum. It's only a few weeks ago that Diego said in the program that if he couldn't get in the first team he was desperate to get a loan to a L1 club so that the Gaffer would notice him. It's seriously negligent of the manager not to watch the development squad, and this is the result.
     
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    I remember when Parkinson was in charge, if we were playing at the Valley and the U18's were playing at Sparrows then Mr Parkinson would watch the first half and half of the second half of the U18 game.
     
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    .....in your opinion Captain. I don't agree with you.

    Were you at QPR for instance, earlier this season? Not only was Pritchard comically out of his depth up against Assou Ekottu, he also had our one chance in the whole game. He had the ball in their six yard box in the second half, only to take a poor touch and miss. Please don't try telling me that this was just a one off. It has happened lots of times...indeed Pritchard became notorious because of his famous "air shots" and poor shooting which have cost us how many points?

    What is all the more galling is that it is now startling apparent - in fairness FHB and AHLL flagged this up at least six months ago - that Powell massively missed a trick with Poyet.

    Powell was busy polishing a turd with BP, when it turns out he had a diamond sitting right under his nose courtesy of the Academy he pays no interest in and the reserves/ youth he never watches.

    Still, in SCP we trust, eh ?
     
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  19. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    Why don't we wait to see what happens with Poyet? We may well hear something by Thursday.
     
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  20. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    In SuperC we trust..........................
     
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