So all that 10 page thread drama was a lie. Thanks daily fail! They truly do live up to their name. Pathetic newspaper!
DL, I know you are young and a student, but this really isn't good enough. Big sweeping statements and generalizations presented as fact, what crap thinking. Do yourself a favor, reflect and insert some shades of grey. There is definitely some truth to what you say, but you detract from the message. ' the M25 is seen as the invisible line between north and south'. What bollocks. Didn't they teach you how to think and present an argument at Uni?
Well, he disappointed me. Usually a moderate and balanced voice on here, he has just regurgitated a heap of 'found' views and prejudice as fact. All he needed to do was insert 'I think' or 'some people' occasionally. Pretty sure he wasn't born when Thatcher was in charge anyway.
Fair enough mate. The Scouse (not all of them) do hate her though. As do the Welsh (not all of them) and probably the Argies (Yes ALL OF THEM!!).
Ha! Two minutes research on Google images shows you that the divide is town and Scotland (Labour/SNP) versus country (Tory except for a few Lib Dems in thecSouth West). But it's much easier to reinforce the old north v south prejudice. Even in Liverpool Riverside, the constituency which includes the poorest bits of Liverpool, 40% of the people who bothered to turn out, voted for candidates to the right of Labour. http://www.mapsinternational.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=1881&pName=UK-Parliamentary-Constituency-Boundary-Wall-map Just look at the blue on the map. Not making a political point (I've voted all sorts in my time, but most often not at all), just trying to insert some fact into the discussion. It really takes no time at all to do this, just a matter of saying "I think xxx, let's see if the facts back me up" and using the wonder of search engines. Right, signing off before this thread goes tits up too.
Aye there's a lot of blue right enough. The thing is though, these areas change with every election. When New Labour was at the height of its powers, most of the map would've been red. DL probably means "traditional" Tory areas and "traditional" Labour areas etc. Good research though Stan, I'm impressed!
New Labour at the height of its powers......obviously more red on the map, but still urban v rural http://www.ukelect.com/May1997Winner/UK.jpg
These aren't my views just generalisations in general that are made, of course not everybody is the same I didnt mean to be so simplistic.
The midlands is where the North starts as a Southern view but I think the stoic Northerners exclude it too. East Anglia is basically a London suburb. Even in Ipswich (60 miles from the capital) the better properties get bought as weekend homes by the more affluent folk from London. Historically and logistically this makes sense as most main roads run directly into London with East-West travel both arduous and time consuming. We tend to fluctuate politically. Personally, I started out voting Labour in the late 90s because I have socialist tendencies (inherited I guess from a struggling single parent family as opposed to kindly but middle class Tory grandparents) but have gone Lib-Dem more recently as Labour have gone right. Locally there is no 4th option except on council elections that is just a case of who chooses to raise the council tax rather than any discernible politics. I am generally disillusioned by politics and the lack of variety these days (it's as if I've had apathy thrust upon me). I tend to go for the Times as a newspaper but must admit to being completely oblivious to bias despite being aware that it is a Tory paper by tradition (although some papers switched allegiances in the last 15 years from being a single Labour paper to a even-ish split). That's about it from me.
