Off Topic DEXTER'S ASHES THREAD.

[Bustino74]

In the spirit of Test Match Special I had a fascinating meeting about 20 years ago. I went to a company business meeting and met our US business leader. I'd heard he was an Aussie but when I saw him I thought I was meeting the really famous Aussie All-Rounder Alan Davidson. It was uncanny and I was fascinated that he was also called Davidson

A couple of years later I was in a car with him and asked him about it. He said that it wasn't surprising as he was his cousin. But it was closer than that as their fathers were brothers and their mothers were sisters. I asked him about his own cricketing ability and he told me he was a batsman and reckoned the equal of his cousin but that he peaked at about 15 ( a bit like most of us!!). He said he played at that age with Ian Craig who was supposed to be Bradman reborn. Said he played with and against him in representative games after Craig had had a breakdown and said it was one of the saddest things to see such a gifted cricketer unable to come back.

I reminded him of the Old Trafford test of 1961 when Alan Davidson scored about 80 in a last wicket partnership with Graeme (Garth) Mackenzie. What looked like a certain win by England now became a run race to get about 220. After a fantastic start by England and a wonderful knock by Dexter ( one of the best innings I've ever seen) Benaud bowled England out. Davidson and Benaud.had won the game

Davidson said England blew it. David Allan, England's off-spinner had Australia over a barrel, so Davidson tried to hit him off. After fortunately hitting about 20 in one over May took him off and brought the seamers on. As Benaud was to show it was a spinners wicket and Davidson took the seamers to the cleaners. Davidson said they often showed an excerpted half hour of the last day on Oz television.

I remember it because of Benaud's bowling and Close's attempt at doing the same as Davidson to Benaud. He hit him for 6 then was caught out on the square leg boundary. He was slated by the critics. He instantly became my first cricketing hero.

(sorry bad previous edit)

 

[SwanHills]

Surely an oxymoron!!!!

Oh, I dunno BK. One of my favourite modern-day oxymorons has to be "Microsoft Works"................

 

[Ron]

I'm tempted to go outside and watch the grass grow.

 

[SwanHills]

How on earth is QMII going to talk his way out of this one? Bet he does.

 

[SwanHills]

Some of the finest catches I have ever seen in one single test match, by both sides. Two or three of them were pheeeenominal!

 

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Some of the finest catches I have ever seen in one single test match, by both sides. Two or three of them were pheeeenominal!

Strange how some of the best ones have been at Trent Bridge eh? If he was alive Cloughie would probably claim he popped down there to make the pitch more bouncy for the fielders!

 

[TopClass]

Blimey, almost 3-1 and in the blinking of an eye the Ashes turns on its head.

There really isn't much between the two sides and its fine lines between winning and getting an absolute hammering on the back of one or two poor sessions. The ebb and flow of Test Cricket is unrivalled.

 

[Dexter]

Has anybody heard anything from Shane Warne since Wednesday? He did predict Australia to win the 4th Test and level the Series.

Watching the highlights last evening, Geoffrey Boycott illustrated in a couple of minutes what has gone wrong with the Aussies in this Series, except for on the docile pitch at Lord’s. Too much front-foot aggression to the moving ball leading to edges – that was why England were playing yesterday morning with five men in the slip/gully cordon.

I am hoping that what happens today is that Joe Root gets to a double century with somebody at the other end chipping in some runs and then England declare. With a lead of around 350, they can finish Australia off by the end of Saturday.

That would seem the fairest result for the folks that have advance tickets for Sunday. I have a horrible feeling that what will actually happen is that there will be an hour of play on Sunday morning to finish the match and the folks with Sunday tickets will get ripped off.

I think you mean that Lords was the only proper test match pitch and we got hammered...rem 5-0?

Two and three day test matches are frankly a joke and whilst Australia have been awful these pitches are a ****ing joke with the ball moving sideways at times.

Delighted we won and bets landed but the ECB really have ****ed up.

I'm sure the sponsors are delighted with these ridiculous pitches...days and revenue lost.

Actually disappointed overall..was looking forward to a good contest.

Please,none of the old "same for both teams"..it wasn't.

Ashes risked on the the win of a toss...paid off in the end.

 

[Dexter]

It did not take very long for a couple of wags to post advertisements:

FOR SALE: Australian Cricket Bats CONDITION: hardly used.


Hopefully Captain Cautious will not allow the lower order to bat all day and then declare half an hour before the close to put the Aussie openers in for five overs with a five hundred deficit. If they can somehow conspire to get out with the lead 350, it would be more of a spectacle for the folks that have paid at the gate.

Thank God he didn't listen to you!

Trevor Bayliss is an Australian and you can see the way we bat,field and bowl is more aggressive..more Australian.

Cook does what he is told by TB..thank God!..would Cook off his own bat declared?..no chance having worked for a completely charmless Zambabwean turd before.

 

[Dexter]

Wow, a Scotsman talking cricket. In the faint hope one of our Irishmen takes to the game (some hope), here's a recap. on the LBW rule, by Stephen Fry. I confirm it's mostly correct (I think) as I umpired at school, and got a thick ear a few times from batting louts who were bigger than me at the time. Oh, I got such a bang out of raising my finger, interfered with my judgement sometimes.

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Swanny our ODI Captain is Irish!

As were Rankin (played in the last Ashes series) and Joyce (in Ashes squad 2005) who represented us
and were poached after playing for Ireland.

 

[Dexter]

Question for Cyc;

Do you think the loss of Harris was enormous?

I do..huge imeo..he would have loved these conditions and wagged the tail a little with the willow.

 

[Dexter]

Any Cricket fans..(rather than Ashes thread hangers on)..there is a great biopic on my fav fast bowler ever...and I include the WI fab 4 and JT and DL.

Sir Curtly Ambrose.

Matthew Hayden said he was unplayable and the best he'd faced...I'd agree.

That should piss a few people off!!..discuss..

 

[SwanHills]

Swanny our ODI Captain is Irish!

As were Rankin (played in the last Ashes series) and Joyce (in Ashes squad 2005) who represented us
and were poached after playing for Ireland.

Oh Lord, forgot that, am living in the past!

Am not exactly a Test Match 'hanger-on', have enjoyed the great game all my life, but I will admit to a preference for international cricket. Much more interesting. Thinking about the fast bowlers, there were a few damn near unplayable ones, especially during the West Indies reign?

 

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Any Cricket fans..(rather than Ashes thread hangers on)..there is a great biopic on my fav fast bowler ever...and I include the WI fab 4 and JT and DL.

Sir Curtly Ambrose.

Matthew Hayden said he was unplayable and the best he'd faced...I'd agree.

That should piss a few people off!!..discuss..

I remember a spell he had in Perth - 1993 maybe? - where he was absolutely devastating.

Interesting post Dex - I think Ambrose and Walsh have a deficit in the credit they deserve in comparison to the other WIndies quicks of days gone by. Fire in Babylon is a great film but the omission of those guys was a real shame.

 

[Cyclonic]

The West Indies have over the years had some fearsome bowlers. My first introduction to the speed out of that part of the world came in the early 60s. Both Sobers and Wes Hall played Sheffield Shield cricket in Australia. As a kid, I was lucky enough to be taken to the Gabba where I got to see Hall do his thing. To this day, I can still see the big man thundering to the wicket with the tail of his shirt flailing in the wind. When he and Charlie Griffith came together as a test pair, I was smitten. Until the great WI sides (and Lillee and Thompson) came along, these two were for me the kings of speed. I'll always rate Thompson as the most fierce bowler I've seen, but right on his hammer was Michael Holding, the man known as Whispering Death and the Rolls Royce of fast bowlers.

 

[bayernkenny]

The West Indies have over the years had some fearsome bowlers. My first introduction to the speed out of that part of the world came in the early 60s. Both Sobers and Wes Hall played Sheffield Shield cricket in Australia. As a kid, I was lucky enough to be taken to the Gabba where I got to see Hall do his thing. To this day, I can still see the big man thundering to the wicket with the tail of his shirt flailing in the wind. When he and Charlie Griffith came together as a test pair, I was smitten. Until the great WI sides (and Lillee and Thompson) came along, these two were for me the kings of speed. I'll always rate Thompson as the most fierce bowler I've seen, but right on his hammer was Michael Holding, the man known as Whispering Death and the Rolls Royce of fast bowlers.

Hall and Griffiths were also my 'introduction' to fast bowlers. They always seemed to come in pairs until the West Indies produced four/five at one go; Christ a batsman would just get 'over' the first two to be confronted by the first change, then the second change! I too loved to see Lillee and Thompson against 'my friends in the south'.
SH - I know your comment was in jest however how many 'Scottish' captains have there been of the English cricket eleven:

Douglas Jardine, Tony Greig and Mike Denness

Any more?

 

[SwanHills]

Well, that was quite emotional for me, especially after the pummeling we took in Australia. Well done England, for me it was against all the odds, but not for our cricket consultant, Dexter, he had it right all along. Could never quite figure out why he thought that way at the start of this series, but what do I know, bugger all! Your confidence was almost mystical sometimes, Dexter!

To Cyc, sure agree on Jeff Thomson and Michael Holding, awesome. Dennis Lillee was no slouch either!

 

[Dexter]

All wrapped up...well played England.

Australia was a shadow of the team that destroyed us a mere 18 months ago.

Off to the old ancestral home in a bit for a funeral of one of the last remaining relies.

Hope theres a few quid in it for me!

GL all.

 

[Cyclonic]

Well played England, the Ashes returns to the Old Dart.

 

[QuarterMoonII]

[QUOTE="SwanHills, post: 8213593, member: 1013726" ] How on earth is QMII going to talk his way out of this one? Bet he does . [/QUOTE]

Let me see – I said that England would win the Test before play started on Thursday. No after-timing there.

Root did not get a double ton because he came out yesterday and decided to throw the bat and threw his wicket away but England scored just under 350. No decision for Cook to make as there were no batsmen left. There will be no play on Sunday.