****ing hell, that was a good interview, well worth a listen. Thanks phil. About 28 mins in. Didn't listen to a Midd; rep or the EFL
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I thought Trevor Birch had something interesting to say about how the parachute payments are affecting the Championship. Also just came across Simon Jordon on Talk Sport via you tube talking about the problem.
Yes. A United States of America-based group, Carlisle Capital are reported to have made a £28 million offer for the stricken Rams with Adam Binnie, the investment firm's vice-president, said to be 'spearheading' the move.
Crucially, PA claims the offer comes with the knowledge that legal claims brought by Midlesbrough and Wycombe Wanderers could result in compensation being paid out to them
Derby supporter's group Black & White Together report that the bid has come from Adam and Colin Binnie and not from the Carlisle Capital group.
This would indicate that the bid is from individuals and not a company.
For the fans' sakes, I hope this goes through, or a higher bid, and that the next owner is more prudent that the last one. I'm sure they will then get through all this and start to flourish again
Crucially, PA claims the offer comes with the knowledge that legal claims brought by Midlesbrough and Wycombe Wanderers could result in compensation being paid out to them
Derby supporter's group Black & White Together report that the bid has come from Adam and Colin Binnie and not from the Carlisle Capital group.
This would indicate that the bid is from individuals and not a company.
For the fans' sakes, I hope this goes through, or a higher bid, and that the next owner is more prudent that the last one. I'm sure they will then get through all this and start to flourish again
The only problem with that is they will not own the ground,Morris still does, you only have to look at clubs like Coventry & lots of other clubs to see what can happen with that, read a report the other week that Poxford are looking to move to Kidlington as their lease runs out in 2026.
The EFL have given Derby's administrators another month to prove they have enough money to finish the season. The American bid of £28M for Derby is well short of the £60M they owe and Mel Morris will still own the ground,it seems they hope the taxman will not force them to pay all of the £29M they owe them but that would opern the floodgates to be opened by other clubs in financial trouble.
This is the problem the rules are being bent again so the EFL does not come out of this looking the bad guys & the administrators are laughing all the way into their bank accounts. As Rob has said in one of his many interviews, Morris hasn't said he has run out of money he has just decided he can not be bovvered anymore. With the tax why should one club get away with it, personally if they don't pay the tax bill they should be docked another 21pts next season, I have to pay my taxes.
Nottingham Forest and Derby County have been charged by the Football Association.
The charge comes after the East Midlands derby that saw skirmishes break out between players after referee Tim Robinson had blown the final whistle at the City Ground.
A statement released today (Thursday) by the FA read:
"Nottingham Forest FC and Derby County FC have been fined £10,000 each for two breaches of FA Rule E20.1 that occurred during their EFL Championship game on 22 Janaury 2022.
"Both clubs admitted that they failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion during the 96th minute and following the final whistle.
The charge comes after the East Midlands derby that saw skirmishes break out between players after referee Tim Robinson had blown the final whistle at the City Ground.
A statement released today (Thursday) by the FA read:
"Nottingham Forest FC and Derby County FC have been fined £10,000 each for two breaches of FA Rule E20.1 that occurred during their EFL Championship game on 22 Janaury 2022.
"Both clubs admitted that they failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion during the 96th minute and following the final whistle.
Derby County: Potential buyer fears club is heading for liquidation
The Binnie family submitted a formal £28m takeover offer last month. It did not include the stadium, which is still owned by Mel Morris, who put Derby into administration in September
However, the family are getting frustrated at the lack of progress surrounding the deal and the lack of a resolution to the compensation claims of Middlesbrough and Wycombe.
While English Football League sources argue this is not the only impediment to a deal, BBC Sport has been told by a source close to the Binnie camp that there is increasing concern that the legal actions are driving Derby towards liquidation
While English Football League sources argue this is not the only impediment to a deal, BBC Sport has been told by a source close to the Binnie camp that there is increasing concern that the legal actions are driving Derby towards liquidation
"I'd like to know where the money is going," Rooney told BBC Radio Derby. "Surely now there is proof of funds?
"A lot of money has come in. Hopefully the EFL can lift the embargo and there might be free agents I can bring in."
What a mess with liquidation looming. It needs a buyer to loan the money needed to avoid liquidation as part of the deal. But first it needs to evaluate the debts to calculate how much it will pay for the club. The ideal situation would be to buy the club and pay the FC tax, and leave the debts for the debtors to pursue Morris
The Binnie family submitted a formal £28m takeover offer last month. It did not include the stadium, which is still owned by Mel Morris, who put Derby into administration in September
However, the family are getting frustrated at the lack of progress surrounding the deal and the lack of a resolution to the compensation claims of Middlesbrough and Wycombe.
While English Football League sources argue this is not the only impediment to a deal, BBC Sport has been told by a source close to the Binnie camp that there is increasing concern that the legal actions are driving Derby towards liquidation
While English Football League sources argue this is not the only impediment to a deal, BBC Sport has been told by a source close to the Binnie camp that there is increasing concern that the legal actions are driving Derby towards liquidation
"I'd like to know where the money is going," Rooney told BBC Radio Derby. "Surely now there is proof of funds?
"A lot of money has come in. Hopefully the EFL can lift the embargo and there might be free agents I can bring in."
What a mess with liquidation looming. It needs a buyer to loan the money needed to avoid liquidation as part of the deal. But first it needs to evaluate the debts to calculate how much it will pay for the club. The ideal situation would be to buy the club and pay the FC tax, and leave the debts for the debtors to pursue Morris
Like Rob has said in one of the interviews he has given how much are the administration getting pais for this.
The EFL says it disagrees with Derby’s belief that legal claims from Middlesbrough and Wycombe should not be treated as football-related debt.
Both clubs are seeking compensation relating to Derby’s breaching of financial rules, but the Rams believe that the governing body should not force them to defend the claims in order to keep its EFL membership.
But the EFL has rejected that stance, insisting that Boro and the Chairboys are creditors and should be paid.
It said in a statement: “Derby County is seeking to use insolvency legislation to avoid having to defend the claims of Middlesbrough FC (which commenced initially in January 2021) and Wycombe Wanderers
The EFL says Derby County must not use insolvency laws to settle some of their outstanding debts - if they wish to come out of administration
“At the request of the administrators, and in line with commitments given at last week’s meeting with local politicians, the EFL has provided a further clear statement to Quantuma of its position on the application of the Insolvency Policy, so as to enable them to apply to the High Court or engage in Arbitration to have that issue determined.
The EFL also renewed its calls for "formal collaborative negotiations" between the current preferred bidder, Middlesbrough, Wycombe, Quantuma, Morris, MSD Partners and HMRC "to ensure Derby County has a long-term future".
Both clubs are seeking compensation relating to Derby’s breaching of financial rules, but the Rams believe that the governing body should not force them to defend the claims in order to keep its EFL membership.
But the EFL has rejected that stance, insisting that Boro and the Chairboys are creditors and should be paid.
It said in a statement: “Derby County is seeking to use insolvency legislation to avoid having to defend the claims of Middlesbrough FC (which commenced initially in January 2021) and Wycombe Wanderers
The EFL says Derby County must not use insolvency laws to settle some of their outstanding debts - if they wish to come out of administration
“At the request of the administrators, and in line with commitments given at last week’s meeting with local politicians, the EFL has provided a further clear statement to Quantuma of its position on the application of the Insolvency Policy, so as to enable them to apply to the High Court or engage in Arbitration to have that issue determined.
The EFL also renewed its calls for "formal collaborative negotiations" between the current preferred bidder, Middlesbrough, Wycombe, Quantuma, Morris, MSD Partners and HMRC "to ensure Derby County has a long-term future".
Derby will not be liquidated they are not Bury the EFL has been bending over backwards to keep them afloat and they won't stop now it is just scaremongering to get the us and to a greater Middlesbrough to back off and take a reduced offer
Our claim is genuine and can be easily ratified. Middlesbrough's claim is pie in the sky based on what might have been. There seems to be a belief that £7m will settle the claims from Wycombe and Middlesbrough. If that is the case I hope they calculate a more realistic claim from Middlesbrough before settling pro rata