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Bigal2 said:
We've the players now to dominate teams at this level,it will come good just have faith.Derby's time wasting and dark arts was their undoing,13 minutes of added time?!
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I’m doubtful whether McKenna can achieve another promotion but it doesn’t really matter. What really matters is whether any top clubs want him. The management team rightly or wrongly made a huge investment to keep McKenna at Portman Road and he’s going nowhere unless we get compensation for him. Ironically if he does well he’ll be in demand and if this season is a damp squib we’re probably stuck with him for the time being.
 
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Nuggets said:
Despite being several pints in, I honestly feel disappointed by the result and the performance. Unacceptable levels on show. No clear game plan. Barely any overlaps. Whenever we got 30 odd yards out, the team didn’t look like it knew what it was doing.

Young misplaced several basic passes. O’Shea caught out badly for a goal. Davis completely blunt. Midfield unable to play in an attacking pass. Philogene scared to take a man on. McAteer completely anonymous. Chaplin completely ineffective. Hirst couldn’t control a pass, really needs to buck his game up if he wants to start games. Subs limited impact but Akpom showed a bit of promise. At least Josh Clarke wanted to take a player on.

This Derby side were poor. Completely ordinary. The fact they came here and got a point is so disappointing.
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I think you must have arrived late Nuggets, the 1st half was better than this. But agree, both teams were woeful in the 2nd, apart from a nice cameo from Akpom who almost scored and Clarkes well taken pen.
 
Bailed out by another penalty. Continues the theme of disappointing performances and results.
Seems like we develop the players in everything, but there's limited focus on turning moves into goals.

Still, once it clicked last time around it became a foundation for a meteoric rise. The launch pad is at a higher starting point so if it works again, there's more to look forward to.

Feels like a big if now. And there's the question of how long were prepared to wait. Big risk of not winning at all in 2025 if it doesn't click soon.
 
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Southcoastoldgaffer said:
I think you must have arrived late Nuggets, the 1st half was better than this. But agree, both teams were woeful in the 2nd, apart from a nice cameo from Akpom who almost scored and Clarkes well taken pen.
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We were decent first half, Gaffer, agreed. Still feel we should’ve been a couple of goals up based on the dominance and that chance towards the end that hit the post.

But that second half performance was utterly poor. Maybe it’s our tags as favourites inhibiting some players. Maybe it is management instructions. But we looked completely toothless. I’ve not been a big fan of Jack Clarke, but thought he was someone who at least came on to run at defenders and try to make something happen.

In our defence, refereeing was atrocious. We should’ve had a penalty for the foul on Hirst. Derby’s blatant timewasting anti-football got them the point. But I was glad to see the 13 minutes added on and the additional two minutes when they wasted time immediately from the 91st minute.

Hopefully it’ll click soon, but it needs to click sooner rather than later. We’re losing ground from this slow start with an equivalent points total of one win in four. Not good enough for me.
 
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As we all agree the referee was dreadful, dangerously so at times like choosing to ignore Travis kick on Cajuste, deffo red card offense.
Letting players get away stuff, feigning being hurt after every challenge to stop the game, is killing the game.
Time to review this whole field of Gamesmanship, and consider new rules and punishment.
 
Southcoastoldgaffer said:
As we all agree the referee was dreadful, dangerously so at times like choosing to ignore Travis kick on Cajuste, deffo red card offense.
Letting players get away stuff, feigning being hurt after every challenge to stop the game, is killing the game.
Time to review this whole field of Gamesmanship, and consider new rules and punishment.
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Only seen the highlights ( not sure if that is a oxymoron?) The Hirst booking for the foul in the box was dreadful. Also seen it from the north stand via the Alex Griffin video. Incredible decision.
unfortunately i am old enough to have seen the great Sir Bobby teams being kicked all over the pitch during some European games in the 70s.

You would think with all the technology available nowadays they could quite happily punish players teams retrospectively, that would eventually stop it one would hope.
 
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The standard of refereeing is a symptom of VAR. Whenever there is VAR not stopping the action is favoured. Minute details are scrutinised. It has filtered down and our officials have lost the ability to make decisions to manage the game, read the body language of players, use their gut feeling and common sense.

In the past refs could make subjective decisions to diffuse tension and in the interests of playing football and fairness - to award a foul or make a booking when the other side was taking the piss kicking lumps out of the opposition or not to give a foul when a player was already on a booking.

I have never seen as much bad refereeing as we have had at the beginning of this season, both for and against Town.
 
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Very mixed performances on lots of levels on saturday, in some ways the ref was shocking, the fact he gave Travis and Hirst a yellow meant he saw both incidents. I think I would have been more accepting had he not booked Travis but booking him means he saw it, it also means there cant be any retrospective action, which is a stupid rule. But whether it was him or his team then did the right thing in adding on lots of extra time.

This performance very much remind me of those under McKenna before we signed Hirst, Broadhead and Luongo, although Woolfenden and Burgess looked a little more cohesive at the back. There were passages of really nice spells but we didn't create too much and on the whole didn't move the ball quickly enough to break down teams which sit deep. Lots of chopping and changing in terms of team selection. I hope similarly he'll start to get some consistency in selection and things will start to click soon.
 
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