Match Day Thread Derby County vs QPR

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That'll help.
Just the frustration boiling over, sad but I think over 2300 have a right to boo after such a s.hit performance, was a absolute shambles from start to finish, this playing tippy tappy crap out from the back is just inviting the opposition to come on too us, and we don’t seem to be able to play quick enough when we break to outnumber them, we just play sideways and allow them to get 10 back behind the ball :steam::steam::steam:<wah><wah><wah>
 
Just the frustration boiling over, sad but I think over 2300 have a right to boo after such a s.hit performance, was a absolute shambles from start to finish, this playing tippy tappy crap out from the back is just inviting the opposition to come on too us, and we don’t seem to be able to play quick enough when we break to outnumber them, we just play sideways and allow them to get 10 back behind the ball :steam::steam::steam:<wah><wah><wah>

Yeah, I get the frustration, but taking it out on the players is not going to help. The manager should take the blame.
 
Just had a look at previous results: I follow three teams, The local team that my boy plays for (that I have managed/coached at senior and youth levels) got relegated. Norrköping that I have travelled all over the country all year to watch is just above relegation and QPR (well, you know).
I have watched 14 games without seeing a win, and the Mrs wonders why I am grumpy and drink too much!
Sympathetic blow jobs? NO!
 
Why only the manager?

There's already a lack of confidence in the squad, so slagging the players can only make things worse. They'll just be inclined to hide even more than they do now. Cifuentes is the man in charge and he should take the brunt of any criticism. Marti can do no wrong though, it seems.
 
There's already a lack of confidence in the squad, so slagging the players can only make things worse. They'll just be inclined to hide even more than they do now. Cifuentes is the man in charge and he should take the brunt of any criticism. Marti can do no wrong though, it seems.
Didn't watch today, but the players shouldn't be exempt from blame. Especially individual errors.

You do seem intent on digging him out though. It's been a terrible start, but he's got credit in the bank for turning it round last season in my opinion.
 
What a complete shower of **** that was. I'm wondering if can claim a refund from somewhere.
Same old story really. No tempo, nothing done with any real idea. My biggest gripe again was Madsen, what this guy brings is actually less than nothing. He doesn't influence a game in any single way. We go 2 down due to ****e defending and Paal not being arsed and then change things to try score. I'm begining to wonder if we are actually instructed not to pass forwards until we are losing. The one player who must be infuriated is Frey up top, we seriously might aswell not play with a striker as both wingers have to cut back to get it in their stronger foot. Anderson was crap, at one point having so much time to move forwards into space that he decided to do a full 360 with the ball before playing it sideways.
 
Weak as piss all of them. That was an absolute disgrace from start to finish. You can have all the ideas and tactics you want but ultimately it’s about having some bollocks and winning your individual battles and we’ve again been bullied by, on paper, a mediocre team because of that.
We didn't dominate anywhere on the pitch today, not one single position
 
Didn't watch today, but the players shouldn't be exempt from blame. Especially individual errors.

You do seem intent on digging him out though. It's been a terrible start, but he's got credit in the bank for turning it round last season in my opinion.

Of course the players aren't exempt from blame, I'm just saying that the manager deserves most of the blame. They're his players, playing to his instructions. I don't think I've ever dug Cifuentes out really, I've just pointed out that he wasn't really worthy of the unquestioning worship that he seems to be afforded on here.
 
Based on what Bob?

Just interested in what you think Cifuentes is bringing to the table this season

I'm struggling if I'm honest

I can't see a system, formation, selection or any backbone

Granted I'm nowhere near seeing us play live for some time but interested in your thoughts
 
Based on what Bob?

Just interested in what you think Cifuentes is bringing to the table this season

I'm struggling if I'm honest

I can't see a system, formation, selection or any backbone

Granted I'm nowhere near seeing us play live for some time but interested in your thoughts
I'm seeing the first 2 of those 3 you mention but unfortunately they are not working. When Chair came on, it's the first time this season (and I'm being serious) that I've seen a midfielder pick the ball up and face towards the oppositions goal, looking to pass forwards. How we set up is becoming completely crazy, forget looking at stats about how many shots we have had or touches in and around the box, they mean absolutely nothing if the ball doesn't go in the net. Our shots today were made of nothing, apart from Dembeles which he made himself rather than the team. There were so many head in the hands moments today, mainly from the 2 Danes. I mentioned Anderson before but he also thought, when with plenty of time to decide, to cross the ball high to the giant Kaito on the far post, closely followed by Madsen chipping the ball out of play under zero pressure. These 2 must be dropped to get this team moving forwards. There were also a few words between players today. Nardi and cook exchanging unpleasantries
 
I'm seeing the first 2 of those 3 you mention but unfortunately they are not working. When Chair came on, it's the first time this season (and I'm being serious) that I've seen a midfielder pick the ball up and face towards the oppositions goal, looking to pass forwards. How we set up is becoming completely crazy, forget looking at stats about how many shots we have had or touches in and around the box, they mean absolutely nothing if the ball doesn't go in the net. Our shots today were made of nothing, apart from Dembeles which he made himself rather than the team. There were so many head in the hands moments today, mainly from the 2 Danes. I mentioned Anderson before but he also thought, when with plenty of time to decide, to cross the ball high to the giant Kaito on the far post, closely followed by Madsen chipping the ball out of play under zero pressure. These 2 must be dropped to get this team moving forwards. There were also a few words between players today. Nardi and cook exchanging unpleasantries

There's a complete lack of confidence and team spirit on display. Who should we blame for that? There was an instance on Tuesday where Nardi got hold of the ball after an opposition corner - at a time when we were chasing the game - and not one player showed for the ball. To a man, they were walking out of our penalty area. Hiding. It has to be down to the manager to sort this **** out. I ****ing despair.