the thing is if we actually picked carroll borinin and suarez in a front three i think they'd each get 15 goals easy and suarez could get 25. Dempsey does NOT pass the man in the street test.
here's the thing... in how many seasons has dempsey ogt 15-20 goals... i suggest you look that one up.. i have.
But if Dempsey CAN get that 15-20 goals a season for the next two it may well help us get Champions League football that will then attract the younger player that can get 15-20 goals per season for five years! As I keep saying, it is about taking one step at a time
Here is a tip for anyone that is actually going to do this... You don't need to go back any further than the 2011-12 season...
precisely. the goals thing is a bit of a myth, the question we must ask is how many assists from open play does he have. downing and adam both ended up flops cos the source of their stats was set pieces which gerrard dominates. what will dempsey off in open play to LFC.....
I do think Dempsey is a different prospect to Downing and Adam but I agree with what you are saying. I can't really say I don't want to sign Walcott because he as prove he is not good enough and that he is your usually greedy footballer when he is still only 23, instead preferring a young unproven player that can found him self at our beloved club whilst on cheaper wages. And then follow it up by saying we should sign Dempsey! Given the choice between Walcott and Dempsey where one would cost £30.6m (£15m and £100k per week) over three years, the other £22.48m (£10m and £80k per week)...? Personally, I'd opt for Adam Johnson - £15m and ££80k per week (£27.48m over three years) PS - I've done it on three years because of Dempsey's age
I have a tiny, tiny bit of good will towards FSG, but not much, sacking Kenny was stupidity of the highest order, but given that they have taken real steps towards a whole new baseline by which we should measure ourselves, does make me give them a little more time. But the stupidity of releasing and then withdrawing the Dempsey statement today does make me and wonder if they are indeed just a bunch of idiots. I personally don't need them to come on LFCtv and tell me about everything they are doing. I never expected full disclosure when John Smith was running the club, so while we live in the information age, I still don't think they need to justify to me, what they are doing. I don't need big named signings, I don't really want Dempsey at 29/30, it is very short term thinking, but if it does get us 4th this season, then it is not a waste. I just want the club to buy the players that they want to buy. Look where Keegan came from, or Hansen, you don't need big names when you can make them from scratch. Personally, I felt we were so close at the end of last season, that I don't need big changes. I still think we could lose one or two of our big players, and I would not blame them, or hate them for it. The idea of players who are 27-30 having to go back to square one with a new manager and philosophy would be enough to make it very attractive to sign for another top European team, who will be in the Champions League this season. If Pepe and Agger do stay, they will indeed be club legends, because all the incentive to move elsewhere is there for all to see.
I'm trying to look at it from Rodgers's POV and I can't see Johnson fitting in, just like Gaston Ramirez. Reason being is that BR wants hard working players combined with technical skill. For BR to successfully implement his style, all players need to be closing down and pressing. If one player is lazy then it relieves pressure and then it could force another player to close down and get dragged out of position and then it's chaos. Whilst I believe Johnson is a fantastic talent, I think he lacks the hard working ethic which is needed (I haven't seen much of him but it's just the impression I get).
one free transfer, one youth player from man utd, a midfielder for 8 million, a defender for 9 million and we have a wage cap....if you think thats spending big then your club really does have problems.
Let's see what the spend is when the season closes eh? Fact is, you'll spend big this close season.....we both know the type of players that you've been linked with; if you don't, i will issue a public apology
By the way...where is that thread where we all took a guess at our net spend over the summer? Could do with a check up on that.
I see your point, LFC-009. AJ's mindset and ethic has been constantly queried by his previous managers; whereas his ability and talent never has. I say it could be worth a shot, though. If anyone can motivate AJ then BR can, as he seems a very good man manager.
Latest I heard on the BBC news is Fulham have rejected a bid for Dempsey. Ha, we can't even buy that muppet to sell shirts stateside. Maybe if we offer them some of our promising youngsters, too, like we did to secure the valuable asset that was Paul Konchesky. Suso should do it. This is the big idea? Dempsey? FFS, it's worse than I thought. I don't need to know the FSG Big Plan because they made it plain when they came in - long-term thinking with young players who've shone but maybe not got chances at other clubs, supplemented with top stars. Wages as reward, not incentive. Honour tradition because it sells. It was impressive. It was worth a shot. It was thrown away in a blind, kneejerk, media-fed panic. Dempsey? FFS! Not a top star, not a youngster, not an investment like Carroll. And that's the plan? We're ****ed. FSG gave Kenny a three-year contract. They should never have given him that if they had their plan for a young up-and-coming manager. But they did, they had to following the performances and results of the half-season. Kenny took them at their word that they were long-term thinkers and began the overhaul immediately, riisking league places to bed in newbies. That was sensible if you've got three years but FSG lied about being long-term thinkers, just as Purslow lied about thinking long-term in giving Rafa another five-year contract in 2010. But getting back to where we belong was a short step in FSG's minds, not something which was going to actually take those three years to be robust and not a fluke. The Carling Cup, an FA Cup final and back in the Europa wasn't the step forward they had in mind to sell shirts, no matter how much they got off on parading around Wembley as winners. Now they supposedly think long-term again, hinting that Rodgers will have time to build. Does anybody seriously believe that? Even moreinjuredthanowen can't be sucking up that BS, surely? There was a lot of talk about us needing a striker because we didn't score enough last season. You could've put any striker in the world in there and he'd have hit the woodwork as many times, too. We created many chances and Dempsey won't improve that. Even those who've never looked at a stat in their lives but "watch the game" could see we were better than our league position suggested and that the situation would not remain like that. The odds were on us improving, not going backwards. Dalglish's integrity remains intact; FSG's does not. I won't repeat all the 'Most of' stats but there was clear and obvious development and promise and the start for Kenny's Big Plan had been made. Costly in league terms, possibly, but sensible in the long-term. Kuyt and Maxi might've gotten us more goals but we'd be a year behind this season with bedding in the newbies. Having invested that time FSG are ready to dump it, just as Carroll is showing he's going to be a serious threat, to start again with [clenched teeth] ****ing Dempsey. The Plan is gone.
kenny, not sure if you have an issue with spurs but if you look at our squad, we never spend big compared to the top clubs, even players like vdv only cost 9 million, modric 16 million, then players like bale, lennon and walker were bargains. If we sell Modric for 35 plus million then I expect avb will want to replace him with mountinho who will cost a similar price but that will only happen if we sell Modric.
