I think everyone is in agreement that Migs and Skrtel both need to be upgraded. Just a question of who will be upgraded first.
Erm yeah he has his wobbles. He has runs of games when he's good and then he loses the plot. Both aren't good enough first teamers.
Skrtel - been poor ever since he sustained that long injury in his what second season (?) with us and never seemed to come back as effective. Liability for most of the time and should have gone in the summer. He scores the odd goal, yeah; he's still supposed to know how to defend, however. Mignolet - one good spell last season when we went 8 games or so unbeaten and he kind of woke up. Other than that he's been a big let down Lovren - not too bad since Klopp took over but still not the real deal, still not good enough IMO. Another Rodgers flop. Benteke - flashes of brilliance, but not enough to sustain or justify his £35 m price tag Milner - It's still a mess and it's been reflected in some of our results to date. What's gone wrong since the 6-1 against Southampton and 4-1 against Citeh is what I would love to know!
If we really had a big offer I wish we had sold skertl Minger is minging Lovern is a decent player... he is what he is and i think he's suit to prem but in europe he'd be destroyed benteke is a worldie. its shameful coutinho can't figure out how to make a simple pass FFS Milner is one paced and flat... he's so flat he's 2D. He's really done well replacing gerrard... as in the 34 year old who did ****e all. Its all a big mess for sure. I thin whats gone wrong is some guys thoght they were it and forgot they have to work to get a result.
**** teams like newcastle and west brom... yeah.... non **** teams try to attack and leave space and its then that the simple press works as you get spaces to play in. we are completely one dimensional and one spaced so if we are presented with a blanket defence we get done newkie.. ran out of steam and ideas on 30 mins. palace done on the break west brom... done by set piece. its like a never ending story for us... been this way for years.
We (Newcastle) are indeed ****, can't argue with that, but you guys just didn't seem to be pushing for it at all. Against Southampton you were hungry, not just to score and win but to keep going, against us it just looked like your players thought that by turning up they had already won. We are poor but we've got one or two decent players (like Wijnaldum who wont be with us for long) and after a brief flurry you sort of stopped. I'm not sure West Brom are **** to be honest, not in the way we are. Haven't they got the bestdefence in the league?
I agree. we played you very poorly. we bascially ran out of ideas on 30 mins and you got a bit of hope and started to dare to actually pass it. dunno why we were do poor. we should have been all over you but there you go. I think southampton imploded and i honeslty think your lot would have had we scored first. West brom are not **** as in just all over the shop but they are deliberately not playing football but playing defense and set piece. If we'd not gifted them a goal (mingolet) they'd not have given up but we should have won it 1-0 and never looked in danger... they are lower half as tony pulis is lower half mentality. yes lowish goals conceded 9nohting special at 21) but also 3rd lowest scored too only swansea and villa have less and both look to be in serious trouble. in short west brom and a bottom half team all day long. (so what does that make LFC )
One was a lucky deflection. Then go back to Swansea. ... very lucky pen Then go back to newkie... what did we do.... Hmmmm. ...
Yes one was lucky, but we had two great chances that we should have scored. Benteke missed a sitter against Newcastle and Sturridge had a chance on his right foot. The attack is a work in progress - but there are chances. Plus we scoring more, conceding less and creating more when Benteke isn't starting ..
sturridge's run was ecellent but it was an awful fluff off his right. he came on and made the type of run we need. the point would be we need to have more than one player in a 4-2-3-1 make that run and the only one is lallana making it.. and he's "****" I think klopp should put firmino up with benteke and see if they can play together. might be fun.
except i nthe game si've pointed out though... hmmm... and the context i've pointed out. just benteke bashing as per...
Somewhere along the line, and I don't know where, we developed what's come to be a hard to break habit of being able to beat those above us but not those below us. I don't know what it is but when was the last time we scored a shed load against lowly opposition?
quite a while. we don't get behind teams enough. If the arguement was sturridge and origi can run in behind all day and there was more evidence than one run from origi then fine but its not that its bashing one guy since before he even signed. the reality is none of our players really get beyond the sole striker, lallana does a little bit but then stays offisde for about an hour and is so bad at getting back. he's the only one who runs in the box. the others aint bad at being at the edge of the box but its really reare to get to the byline to be pulling it back there. We need guys running in behind and we also need to play it quicker with more precision passing to get in behind these guys.... one delay, one ****ty pass behind its intended target and the whole attacks slow up and mos tof these teams have 10 men back by the time we every try to deliver. Moreno is making lots of overlaps on the left but clyne is not on the right. I don't know why. ibe takes 10 touches before either passing or crossing. the boy has the capability to do a lot better than that. Firmino high up the pitch does better. he needs time to speed up his game and improve his passing as he is sloppy at times now. Milner has been quite poor IMO, he's been one paced and not really giving much up there. In short having 3 no 10s in coutinho firmino lallana and then milner wanting to play centrally it seems and only ibe wide who holds it too long means we really don't look quite right. The cheslea team have been hit ALL year by teams getting in at their back 4 cos the CMS are absent and not tracking. City gave us a shed load of space to play in. Southampton fell apart after sturrdige did them in. those are our best games under klopp and i would say we prospered when given space to play in. others seem to think all there games only share no benteke and he's the root of all evil. lallana, coutinho and firmino had a field day v city cos there was a shedload of space and not one midfield tracker yet they are seemingly blameless when we cannot score cos there are no such gaps given in other games as benteke completely somehow stops them making runs or doing the pressing the boss wants. Its not just benteke. If it were that simple we could all manage teams. just drop him, stick in the kid and goals flow. I'd love benteke to score 2 v watford just to show... if the whole 11 do thier jobs as a team and play with more intensity and pressing watford will be the ones under pressure Read klopps comments they tell us all we should be listening to. read his newcastle reaction. everyone failed to work hard enough.
