Off Topic Death and Beyond

[Milk..]

It's impossible to know what's after death. Even those who "came back" are mostly coming from a dream like state.

I don't think there is any proof of an afterlife, or supreme being... But there is no proof there isn't either.

One thing that's always felt uneasy to me is that technology always advances. Things we do today would seem like magic to people 1000 years ago.

Who knows what they will be able to do 1000 years from now, maybe even find a way to artificially bring us back in some sort of simulation. Sounds impossible, or implausible now, but so would nuclear power, tv, spaceflight and many other technologies to people past.

God knows what reason. Maybe to punish us for all our sins... Even things we don't consider sins today.

Good reason to get cremated... Your ancestors may have a harder time bringing you back.

 

[saintanton]

It's impossible to know what's after death. Even those who "came back" are mostly coming from a dream like state.

I don't think there is any proof of an afterlife, or supreme being... But there is no proof there isn't either.

One thing that's always felt uneasy to me is that technology always advances. Things we do today would seem like magic to people 1000 years ago.

Who knows what they will be able to do 1000 years from now, maybe even find a way to artificially bring us back in some sort of simulation. Sounds impossible, or implausible now, but so would nuclear power, tv, spaceflight and many other technologies to people past.

God knows what reason. Maybe to punish us for all our sins... Even things we don't consider sins today.

Good reason to get cremated... Your ancestors may have a harder time bringing you back.

I don't want a second go - the first one was hard enough. And that's from someone who has enjoyed a relatively privileged and hardship-free existence - in comparison with those who have endured oppression, war, famine, drought etc.

 

[Bumps]

It's impossible to know what's after death. Even those who "came back" are mostly coming from a dream like state.

I don't think there is any proof of an afterlife, or supreme being... But there is no proof there isn't either.

One thing that's always felt uneasy to me is that technology always advances. Things we do today would seem like magic to people 1000 years ago.

Who knows what they will be able to do 1000 years from now, maybe even find a way to artificially bring us back in some sort of simulation. Sounds impossible, or implausible now, but so would nuclear power, tv, spaceflight and many other technologies to people past.

God knows what reason. Maybe to punish us for all our sins... Even things we don't consider sins today.

Good reason to get cremated... Your ancestors may have a harder time bringing you back.

Yeah but some of the stuff that was done 1000’s of years ago we still can’t explain today

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

I don't want a second go - the first one was hard enough. And that's from someone who has enjoyed a relatively privileged and hardship-free existence - in comparison with those who have endured oppression, war, famine, drought etc.

I’ll happily come back as a well looked after cat or dog. What a life

 

[saintanton]

I’ll happily come back as a well looked after cat or dog. What a life

I'd be bored to tears with that.
Anyway, I don't believe in reincarnation so I'm not sure, but I don't think you get a choice.
And as the overwhelming majority of living things have desperately hard lives struggling for survival, the odds on you landing a comfortable one are comfortably worse than Norwich grabbing the PL title this season.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I'd be bored to tears with that.
Anyway, I don't believe in reincarnation so I'm not sure, but I don't think you get a choice.
And as the overwhelming majority of living things have desperately hard lives struggling for survival, the odds on you landing a comfortable one are comfortably worse than Norwich grabbing the PL title this season.

I'm sure they think its about karma so to go down to being a cat form a human would say you've been a ****ty human being but maybe a good snail or something?

Surely if you go down to cat level you are going to be a moggy on the streets of Bangkok running from the stewing pot?

anyway if you were a cat surely then you'd entertain yourself by licking your ball or pissing on your owners furniture and such?

 

[saintanton]

I'm sure they think its about karma so to go down to being a cat form a human would say you've been a ****ty human being but maybe a good snail or something?

Surely if you go down to cat level you are going to be a moggy on the streets of Bangkok running from the stewing pot?

anyway if you were a cat surely then you'd entertain yourself by licking your ball or pissing on your owners furniture and such?

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[Treble]

No idea if this will get any of you involved or not ?
Having had another bereavement in the family - I think my time here getting closer and I consider a lot of you as mates -
So I was just wondering if anyone in here has any thoughts on what comes next ?

I used to be certain in my thoughts of what comes next but now I am not so sure ?

I know I want science to prove there is a God because I think that would be beautiful that the two sides which have fought end up working together

just a musing

Before the biggest bereavement in my life I was absolutely sure of an after life. This was completely down to my faith. I also think it was because I'd never really experienced loss on that level.

After the bereavement it shook that belief. I don't think I really understood how final it feels when you lose someone close. 'Final' isn't a big enough word to fully explain how it feels.

I started asking myself how an afterlife would look? A question I'd never really delved into except the notion of glowing human entities living in some utopia. But that can't be possible can it? The human form can't exist because the body is fragile. So no physical being and no physical contact? So what are we then? A spiritual metaphysical being? A spark of light. Who would we know? Who would we want to be with? And how would that impact on all those we rely on or want to be with? Wouldn't it cause all the same problems we encounter and experience in this life?

When I asked these questions to someone more knowledgable on this than me, I was told our experience of existence is limited and we can't begin to imagine other dimensions. That the reality and realm in which we exist in the afterlife is beyond our concept but will allow us to be with the ones we love with complete fullfilment.

I've chosen to hang onto that. In effect admit I have no idea of how it will work, but that it does. I do that because I want to believe in an afterlife.

On an additional note, believing in an afterlife is not just about the afterlife, it's not just about what I will do when I'm dead. Believing in an afterlife, believing that person is still being out there, affects the decisions and choices I make in this life.

 

[Tobes]

Before the biggest bereavement in my life I was absolutely sure of an after life. This was completely down to my faith. I also think it was because I'd never really experienced loss on that level.

After the bereavement it shook that belief. I don't think I really understood how final it feels when you lose someone close. 'Final' isn't a big enough word to fully explain how it feels.

I started asking myself how an afterlife would look? A question I'd never really delved into except the notion of glowing human entities living in some utopia. But that can't be possible can it? The human form can't exist because the body is fragile. So no physical being and no physical contact? So what are we then? A spiritual metaphysical being? A spark of light. Who would we know? Who would we want to be with? And how would that impact on all those we rely on or want to be with? Wouldn't it cause all the same problems we encounter and experience in this life?

When I asked these questions to someone more knowledgable on this than me, I was told our experience of existence is limited and we can't begin to imagine other dimensions. That the reality and realm in which we exist in the afterlife is beyond our concept but will allow us to be with the ones we love with complete fullfilment.

I've chosen to hang onto that. In effect admit I have no idea of how it will work, but that it does. I do that because I want to believe in an afterlife.

On an additional note, believing in an afterlife is not just about the afterlife, it's not just about what I will do when I'm dead. Believing in an afterlife, believing that person is still being out there, affects the decisions and choices I make in this life.

I respect your faith even though I don’t share it, same goes for your view on the afterlife. These are deeply personal beliefs as you’ve amply demonstrated in that honest and open post. I’ve nothing else to add to this discussion tbh.

 

[Milk..]

anyway if you were a cat surely then you'd entertain yourself by licking your ball or pissing on your owners furniture and such?

If you start flexibility training when you're young, you can lick your own balls and piss on people's furniture as a human too.

Or if you're Biscan you can lick someone else's balls.

Unfortunately, I wasted my childhood not practicing my stretches enough.


/Sorry, no offense intended Biscan, I read from previous posts you get teased about that sort of thing. Hope it's OK me joining the bandwagon.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Before the biggest bereavement in my life I was absolutely sure of an after life. This was completely down to my faith. I also think it was because I'd never really experienced loss on that level.

After the bereavement it shook that belief. I don't think I really understood how final it feels when you lose someone close. 'Final' isn't a big enough word to fully explain how it feels.

I started asking myself how an afterlife would look? A question I'd never really delved into except the notion of glowing human entities living in some utopia. But that can't be possible can it? The human form can't exist because the body is fragile. So no physical being and no physical contact? So what are we then? A spiritual metaphysical being? A spark of light. Who would we know? Who would we want to be with? And how would that impact on all those we rely on or want to be with? Wouldn't it cause all the same problems we encounter and experience in this life?

When I asked these questions to someone more knowledgable on this than me, I was told our experience of existence is limited and we can't begin to imagine other dimensions. That the reality and realm in which we exist in the afterlife is beyond our concept but will allow us to be with the ones we love with complete fullfilment.

I've chosen to hang onto that. In effect admit I have no idea of how it will work, but that it does. I do that because I want to believe in an afterlife.

On an additional note, believing in an afterlife is not just about the afterlife, it's not just about what I will do when I'm dead. Believing in an afterlife, believing that person is still being out there, affects the decisions and choices I make in this life.

The fun is that we have beliefs because people.have imagined possibilities so for anyone to pretend to be more knowledgeable is laughable imo.

Imo all life is a test of one sort or another.

The pure biology of life says the onus is on generations upon generations to pass it forward and not waste the opportunities.

Ultimately afterlife is a solace for some but shouldn't be a focus as the test is in front of everyone daily. Focus on now and the rest is inevitable as taxes, and everyone will find out eventually

 

[Zanjinho]

I’ll happily come back as a well looked after cat or dog. What a life

I'd prefer to come back as Jennifer Aniston tbh...

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I'd prefer to come back as Jennifer Aniston tbh...

So jilted cant keep a man persona for you?

Not mad bint like Angelina Jolie?

 

[Treble]

The fun is that we have beliefs because people.have imagined possibilities so for anyone to pretend to be more knowledgeable is laughable imo.

Imo all life is a test of one sort or another.

The pure biology of life says the onus is on generations upon generations to pass it forward and not waste the opportunities.

Ultimately afterlife is a solace for some but shouldn't be a focus as the test is in front of everyone daily. Focus on now and the rest is inevitable as taxes, and everyone will find out eventually

Yeh saying knowledable was the wrong choice of word on my part. Maybe wisdom would've been better.

The trouble with opportunities is not all of us get the time to pass it on. Old age is a gift. Pure biology can be a bitch and not everyone is lucky enough to see it. Maybe that's just tough ****, but I'd like to think otherwise and they will have the opportunity to live a fuller one in the afterlife.

I agree it shouldn't be the focus. It can be a motivator and a comforter. Sometimes knowing someone is watching over you, perhaps.

 

[Milk..]

I'd prefer to come back as Jennifer Aniston tbh...

Come back as her, or come on her back?

 

[Bumps]

Before the biggest bereavement in my life I was absolutely sure of an after life. This was completely down to my faith. I also think it was because I'd never really experienced loss on that level.

After the bereavement it shook that belief. I don't think I really understood how final it feels when you lose someone close. 'Final' isn't a big enough word to fully explain how it feels.

I started asking myself how an afterlife would look? A question I'd never really delved into except the notion of glowing human entities living in some utopia. But that can't be possible can it? The human form can't exist because the body is fragile. So no physical being and no physical contact? So what are we then? A spiritual metaphysical being? A spark of light. Who would we know? Who would we want to be with? And how would that impact on all those we rely on or want to be with? Wouldn't it cause all the same problems we encounter and experience in this life?

When I asked these questions to someone more knowledgable on this than me, I was told our experience of existence is limited and we can't begin to imagine other dimensions. That the reality and realm in which we exist in the afterlife is beyond our concept but will allow us to be with the ones we love with complete fullfilment.

I've chosen to hang onto that. In effect admit I have no idea of how it will work, but that it does. I do that because I want to believe in an afterlife.

On an additional note, believing in an afterlife is not just about the afterlife, it's not just about what I will do when I'm dead. Believing in an afterlife, believing that person is still being out there, affects the decisions and choices I make in this life.

Thank you for that
Greatly appreciate the honesty
Thankyou

 

[Bumps]

If you start flexibility training when you're young, you can lick your own balls and piss on people's furniture as a human too.

Or if you're Biscan you can lick someone else's balls.

Unfortunately, I wasted my childhood not practicing my stretches enough.


/Sorry, no offense intended Biscan, I read from previous posts you get teased about that sort of thing. Hope it's OK me joining the bandwagon.

Deep that guys
Very deep…

 

[Bumps]

The fun is that we have beliefs because people.have imagined possibilities so for anyone to pretend to be more knowledgeable is laughable imo.

Imo all life is a test of one sort or another.

The pure biology of life says the onus is on generations upon generations to pass it forward and not waste the opportunities.

Ultimately afterlife is a solace for some but shouldn't be a focus as the test is in front of everyone daily. Focus on now and the rest is inevitable as taxes, and everyone will find out eventually

I never understand why people use terminology like laughable in the context you have there

definitely two clear theories and it’s all about belief but to claim someone cannot or doesn’t know - I always find a little inflexible.

only 20 years ago people derided those who believed in UFOs and stood by science stating It was impossible as science would know then guess what - information gets declassified and suddenly UFOs officially exist (not saying where they are from but that they are there and probably largely down to events like the Philadelphia lights which were to big to cover up)
Point being science doesn’t always have the answer
It strives to find them but sometimes I think that little bit of blind faith needs to exist

if only I could apply that to supporting the team lmao

 

[Milk..]

Deep that guys
Very deep…

Licking your own balls isn't deep... It just touches the surface.

 

[Treble]

I never understand why people use terminology like laughable in the context you have there

definitely two clear theories and it’s all about belief but to claim someone cannot or doesn’t know - I always find a little inflexible.

only 20 years ago people derided those who believed in UFOs and stood by science stating It was impossible as science would know then guess what - information gets declassified and suddenly UFOs officially exist (not saying where they are from but that they are there and probably largely down to events like the Philadelphia lights which were to big to cover up)
Point being science doesn’t always have the answer
It strives to find them but sometimes I think that little bit of blind faith needs to exist

if only I could apply that to supporting the team lmao

Tbf Bumps I don't think Mito was saying the beliefs were laughable, just that one person claiming to be more knowledgeable than someone else when nobody knows for sure, is laughable.

It was a poor choice of word on my part. I meant having more wisdom... as in the philosophical sense.