Junior sacked Pemberton and brought in Holden. Holden knew he was replacing someone sacked for him to get the No2 job. Live by the sword........ But come on guys, it was terrible judgement by Lansdown to employ the relatively cheap and inexperienced Junior, surely they can't make the same mistake again. Lansdown got it right with the rugby, let's hope he's learned from that experience.
He was the one Managing them. Coaches do what they are instructed to do. Bristol City played with seven formations. The coaches will have needed to feed 5000 as well to coach that adeptly. Bristol City employed a man called Bill Bewick. He is one if not the leading sports psychologist in the UK. Mr Johnson clearly was not following what Bill Beswick feels are golden rules of man management big ones being NEVER criticise players in public, be clear in your thinking ... Johnson should have been sacked seasons ago. He had the resources to succeed and was not good enough.
It seems as if we are going out and procuring the best in the business for every position except Head Coach. Crazy - but possibly an indicator as to how SL wants to control things - maybe because he’s seen owners get stung before when blindly backing managers? Whatever happens I’m preparing myself to be underwhelmed.
To be fair, most of us across the bridge were inderwhelmed with the appointment of Harris. He has grown on me certainly. A more appealing style than colin, who i rate highly by the way, and not affraid to make changes to personnel and formation during a game. Lots of goals off the bench. As a side note, Houghton was my preferred choice for us. Interesting that he's been out of post for so long given the number of comings and goings about the divisions.
Yeah was terrible having Junior in RP, fancy Lansdown getting in someone that could keep us in the championship for so long.....disastrous appointment
Hughton at Newcastle he had the squad already, even you or me could of got them promoted. At Brighton he assembled a squad with a wage bill of 49m. So I would say it’s the money he wants to build squads. Like you said regarding Harris, sometimes it’s the ones that you wasn’t expecting that produces the results. A lot of people talk about experience when this year Harris was the most experienced manager in the play offs. Even though I hate your team, I thought they looked good in both games.
But he failed in the ultimate goal. Bottom line if SL appoints another cheap option, that cheap option had better hit the ground running, because the fans will not give him any leeway this time.
All managers fail eventually, he lasted 4 1/2 years , whilst he had bad runs he succeeded up until this season, and considering where were when he took over to when he left his term was successful
To some on here and on OTIB, the term ‘failure’ and/or ‘sacked’ when applied to LJ is essential therapy. Let them enjoy the moment. The words are important to them and they need them. min the meantime, I want to know who the next person is to take up the poisoned chalice......
How many of our recent managers have left while the team have been in a better position than when they took over , and until this season had season on season progression ? , apart from SC , I can’t think of many . Can you ?
Nice try, why only narrow it to 'recent', oh yeah to try to prove a non existent point. In my time of support then. Fred Ford left us in the old division 2 after promotion the season before. Terry Cooper left us in the old division 3 and a healthy bank balance after a promotion and 2 Wembley trips. Joe Jordan left us in old division 2 after promotion, before he buggered off to Hearts. John Ward left us in the championship after promotion, before an absolutely ridiculous managerial appointment took us straight back down. Gary Johnson took us up to the championship and left us with a Wembley play off and 2 top 10 finishes. SC you have already mentioned, a great promotion season. And LJ was a manager who stabilised us into an upper mid table championship team, but could hardly buy a win between January and the end of the season for 3 straight years. Football did not start in the recent era. Next.
Out of all the above only LJ has managed to keep us stabilised in a very very competitive 2nd tier of English football for so long, longer than any manager since AD even though most of the clubs in this division over the years have been in the Premiership and so have had the luxury of massive parachute payments and premiership players to help them along the way........That's what you call leaving a club in a healthy position...Next!!
'The words' 'failure' and or 'sacked' is the word used by football media over LJ's and even more successful managers like for instance Chris Hughton when they are relieved of their managerial duties. It's all about expectation and when a manager fails to meet expectations, he becomes an ex manager. Your comment about enjoying the moment is childish, I unlike some never hated LJ, I was just underwhelmed at what I and many perceived as lack of ambition, 3 seasons ago on the back of stunning Carabao cup and riding high in the championship and playing some of the best football in years and then we played Wolves on the 30th December 2017 and lost a game we deserved something out of and then we won only 4 of the next 22 games, the next season our annual slump had the good grace to start after February 17th and another defeat to Wolves in the FA cup and we went on to win 4 games out of the next 15, this season we started earlier a 10th December home defeat by Millwall and we managed just 8 wins in 26 games, that totals in the 3 seasons 16 wins in those 63 games, all 3 seasons, what is the old maxim 'your only as good as your last game?' even an average run in would have seen us in the play offs. 9 more points 3 seasons ago, 5 points last season, 8 points this season. I have and will continue to thank LJ for his efforts and at times stunning football and memories, I wish him well, except when his next team plays us, but it needs to serve as a warning to our owners, underwhelm the fans again and expect that person to hit the ground running or else they will turn quickly, a proven name will be given longer, that is the way of the football fans world. In the meantime I agree with your final line.
That wasn't the question that I was replying to, but again nice try, next. 'Some people' have managed to make LJ the most excused manager in all of my 62 years of support, we all know the good that he did, but at the same time he gave us 3 half seasons complete and utter misery and failure to achieve his goal. LJ has gone, the king is dead, the next king will hopefully be appointed for the end of next season, long live the king. PS:- Let's wait to see what the next 'king' has to say about 'healthy position' with 3 players out of contract and 13 entering their final year, it looks as though a lot of players were not overly confident.
The question was "How many of our recent managers have left while the team have been in a better position than when they took over" You strung a few together, but I was stating how LJ left it......and IMO it was 2nd to none in comparison and stated the reasons... All new managers when they come into a new club will make underwhelming comments to how the setup was left, that's the nature of the beast, used to be the old fitness gripe....but hey ho.. Was it down to LJ to sort out the contracts? Not sure it was, players look to improve their contracts, not sure it's much to do with what confidence they had/have. One thing I do know and that is, the new manager coming in will have to hit the road running, otherwise the last three years of failure as you put it will be deemed a complete success and piss off the haters even more...........can you imagine a relegation battle of a season....oh god!!
Johnson has left a squad in a poor position. A dodgy keeper, dodgy defence, dodgy midfield and a team bereft of a strong spine. Unless the new man can walk on water it will be impossible for a new manager to hit the road running. Reality will kick in when the season starts.
