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David Moyes will be a success at Manchester United

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by RVP stole my goals, May 24, 2013.

  1. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry not now <laugh>
     
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  2. shwan

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    oh GOD ... Matth, just let us wait and see
    he is a great manager .. but to succeed is a different matter, you need some luck, some luck in good signings , a good board to support him for 2-3 seasons till he build the team he want, he will need players that will respecting him enough, ..etc.
     
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  3. Enricky.

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    Noticed that after I'd posted it <laugh>

    Oh well, no loss <ok>
     
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  4. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    He hasn't even managed a league cup with the Blues, Wigan and Swansea have both won trophies this season, Wigan who could not even survive the PL. Swansea with a new manager and newly promoted vs Moyes who's been managing in the PL for a decade with one team.

    People will say blah blah no cash, but look at his team, they are good enough to win a cup but they've won nothing at all in a decade under Moyes.

    Good manager, keeping them up and occasionally getting them in the top 6 but "Great"? no, not by a long shot
     
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  5. shwan

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    waw <doh> .. you signed a manager based on one good season and winning nothing .. how hypocritical is that?
    Moyes was one of the most consistent manager over the past years with little resources
    so are you suggesting to sign Wigan manager who his team were constantly fighting for relegation just bcz he win a trophy? <doh>
    waw .. you are so smart man, that am seriously thinking to relocate myself just be closer to you and learn alot from the wide knowledge you have man .. I think you are just dimensions ahead of us

    you know how everyone can know you are an ignorant teenage ?.. bcz you don't know your fkn club history.. your best manger Bill Shankly had win nothing with his previous clubs you idiot.. and this the one you guys call as best manager of all time ..
     
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  6. Swarbs

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    That's more down to the need for any club outside the big four to prioritise the league if they are to be sustainable in the modern game. Ever since Abramovich's money changed the landscape of the PL, almost no club outside the top four has managed to win a trophy without shafting themselves in the league. Portsmouth, Birmingham and now Wigan got themselves relegated chasing trophies, and do you think the Pompey fans are glad of that one FA Cup they won as a result?

    Even Liverpool and Spurs suffered in the league on account of chasing minor trophies - Spurs finished in the bottom half and drifted into the relegation zone the season after winning the LC, and Liverpool spent £50m+ to win the LC whilst enjoying their worst league finish for 50 years, followed by another season in mid table this year.

    Swansea may yet prove to be the exception to the rule, but in general a club outside the top four that wins a trophy does not benefit from it, and often suffers as a result.
     
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  7. CPofL KTBFFH

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    You are too kind but it was your first share issue that changed everything. You do remember that, just after you broke the transfer record a few times <whistle> It's funny how Manure fans always forget about that.
     
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  8. shwan

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    breaking the record to buy one player is something and splashing 100m a season and spending like crazy is a different subject
     
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  9. astro

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    Didn't Man Utd have a more expensive team than Man City in last year's derby or something? If so they probably also had a more expensive team this year unless maybe Rio was sicknoting it.
     
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  10. joseshivers

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    I very much doubt it, but give me stats I'm always prepared to be proven wrong.

    As for Moyes he will have to at worst finish top 3 and not too far behind or it will start to get very tough. He will not get the time Fergue was given, and nor should he with the position United are now in. All in all I'm optimistic though, I think Moyes could a very be a shrewd move.
     
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  11. redconn

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    fergie will still be there as defacto manager from the directors box

    moyes will do fine in his role as mannequin
     
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  12. shwan

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    1- UTD spend 500m over 10-15 years .. City spend them in 2-3 seasons

    2- 60-70% of UTD spending in a stats i read i past 6 or 7 years where majority sponsored by selling players, i think we had something about 10m in average spend a season with the rest of transfer budget financed by selling players
     
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  13. One of the lads

    One of the lads Well-Known Member

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    Which team had more Rep!?

    Rep!
     
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  14. Cruyff's Turn

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    United haters all hoping Moyes will fail.He will do fine.(Except at Carrot Rd)
     
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  15. Swarbs

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    If you take City fans' very favourable interpretations of the cost of their own players and the cost of ours, then their starting XI was something like £1 million less expensive. But their bench was still a good £20 million more expensive, and that's with Tevez being AWOL.

    This year their team was around £10 million more expensive than ours, thanks to Cleverley and Evans being fit and in form, Berbatov having left, and Tevez deciding he actually quite fancies turning up once in a while. And their bench in the first game was around three times as expensive as ours, as we only bought three of the players who were on it.
     
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  16. Breakingbad14

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    True that United bought the top players in the league during that last two and three decades. Howver, they still had a a budget limit and other teams could still compete. Blackburn, Arsenal and Newcastle could still get the top players (e.g Shearer, Henry etc).

    May be the FFP may rein in some of today's totally extravagant expenditures of some clubs.
     
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  17. astro

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    Yeah that was it, Man Utd had a more expensive starting 11 but City's bench was ridiculous.
     
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  18. Swarbs

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    And even then the most expensive starting XI was dependent on what figures you used for the transfers. Depending on the source Nasri cost between £21m and £25m, and Jones was between £16m and £22m. You had to use the lowest figures for City and the highest figures for Utd to come out with a Utd XI that was more expensive than the City XI.

    Still, you gotta give those poor City fans something ;)
     
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  19. Blueman

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    Maybe. If it ever gets off the ground.
     
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  20. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Only for English clubs, French and Spanish clubs will continue as normal
     
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