What a complete arse this guy is. Having single handedly dismantled the machinery behind the scenes that made the club tick - he thinks himself qualified to comment on the clubs transfer policy - this from the ****wit who bought Fellaini
David Moyes exceedingly big gob
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United's transfer policy is a ****ing shambles.
Moyes asked for, and thought he had, Kroos, Herrera and Shaw.
He was instead handed Fellaini in the last seconds of the transfer window, for whom Woodward overpaid, then carried the can for it.
It was completely down to the ineptitude of Woodward, let's not try to re write history.
You sound like UIR for **** sake.
Moyes asked for, and thought he had, Kroos, Herrera and Shaw.
He was instead handed Fellaini in the last seconds of the transfer window, for whom Woodward overpaid, then carried the can for it.
It was completely down to the ineptitude of Woodward, let's not try to re write history.
You sound like UIR for **** sake.
What are the United board playing at. You have the resources to get any player in the world by maybe 5-10 but you don't are you turning into arsenal with the penny pinching. But here's my assumption ole was given the job merely as a stop gap under the remit to give youth a chance and next season you sack him bring in poch and you go hard in the transfer window
Spending big on egotastic players and managers has got us into a mess. OGS has been tasked with steadying the ship and bringing some of the club's identity back. I prefer players who actually want to play for United over big money signings who just want £300k a week.
Absolutely agree, the two we have signed so far have great potential and while Maguire will involve a big fee and he'll get decent wages, he appears ego free and a good fit to what we're trying to get back to.
Which is also why Lukaku is being allowed to leave, he's the opposite of what we're trying to get back to.
It could well be that him leaving frees up the Maguire transfer? Even if not, there isn't a bottomless spit and we can't just pay 'what is being asked', as where do you stop?
I think the Maguire figure of £70 million also already excessive, if just about acceptable in today's market. £90 million is bloody ridiculous, hardly penny pinching.
Moyes could have signed Messi and brought CR7 back and still ****ed the whole thing up. What on earth were the backroom staff from Everton ever going to achieve - nothing. Moyes getting rid of key staff throughout the club not only put the noose around his own neck but he ****ed it up for LVG and JM who had to work with mid-table coaches and the Moyes mentality. That ain't re-writing history - that's fact, and we're only getting out of the torpor that he ingrained now.
All of the above is nothing to do with United's transfer policy though.
LVG and Jose both used their own coaches, the Everton dross were binned with Moyes.
Players who might have come to us, players who were watching the succession form SAF to Moyes turned and ran when they saw what Moyes turned us into. That made it almost impossible for us to get the talent we needed and so we had to start scrabbling around for second-rate players who were still prepared to join. As the club still hasn't stabilised since Moyes disastrous tenure, that transfer legacy continues - top talent isn't beating a path to our door any more, instead we have to send Woodward out with a big fat cheque-book to pay over the odds for mediocrity - so yes, it has everything to do with our transfer policy.
Err, no it doesn't.
Louis van Gaal was, allegedly, the superstar manager we need to replace the admittedly average Moyes.
He brought in the likes of Shaw, Herrera, who Moyes identified and Woodward failed to sign, and Di Maria, Falcao and Schweinsteiger.
Clearly Moyes's tenure had no effect whatsoever in us signing those players.
Van Gaal turned United upside down completely. The way we currently are is more down to his two seasons than Moyes's seven months.
Yeah, I get it that you and the likes of UIR objected to Moyes from the start but it was big name supposedly 'cast iron' league winner LVG that ****ed us up big style, sorry.
Louis van Gaal was, allegedly, the superstar manager we need to replace the admittedly average Moyes.
He brought in the likes of Shaw, Herrera, who Moyes identified and Woodward failed to sign, and Di Maria, Falcao and Schweinsteiger.
Clearly Moyes's tenure had no effect whatsoever in us signing those players.
Van Gaal turned United upside down completely. The way we currently are is more down to his two seasons than Moyes's seven months.
Yeah, I get it that you and the likes of UIR objected to Moyes from the start but it was big name supposedly 'cast iron' league winner LVG that ****ed us up big style, sorry.
They went well for us - we must have got a total of two hours football out of he three of them. Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree over this one.
No, it's fine, you've worn me down.
United's current transfer policy is down to David Moyes.
Clearly.
United's current transfer policy is down to David Moyes.
Clearly.
It gave me a real laugh when LVG became your manager. The Dutch Avram Grant.
Interesting, LVG has won a trophy at every clubs he's managed while Grant has won **** all, though he's only managed small teams
That's not really true, his Ajax team were pioneers and his Barca team wasn't too shabby. Let's give him some deserved credit.
He was dreadful at United though and his style of football has set us back five years.
They won in spite of Van Gaal, not because of him, on the back of players other people bought in. Robson's Barca team was great, but he slowly pulled that apart to implement his 'philosphy' and they went into decline for 5 years. Does that sound familiar?
I does yeah, but you genuinely can't overlook his Ajax team. Which was literally decades ago!
FWIW, when he was touted as United manager I said from the start it was an emperors new clothes situation. I knew the guy was a ****ing fake abut yet no one else was prepared to also say it.
One or two on here were hoodwinked into thinking he was some messiah or other but I knew form day one it was bollocks. Never wanted him, would rather Moyes had stayed.
He was funnier than Moyes, that's about it.
But the understanding was that Moyes would retain the established, PL winning coaching staff already in post rather than sack them all and bring in mid-table, inexperienced pratts and their mid-table experience. That's the issue - not SAF