Dave & louis211 vs Tobes

mildly interesting.

IF city can be favorites then chelsea being 4-1 represent good value IMO especially when a striker is sure to turn up in january. thats an interesting one.

Arsenal at 3-1 shows some value too, not much imo but it would be interesting.

LFC being at the same odd as utd... who are 4 points back is not such a nice story. IT says there's little confidence in us. fair but not a laughing matter just cos utd are terrible.

Tottenhams odds are hilarious and with baines out... well everonts odds are designed to attract the most deluded to part with cash.

Its interesting to see how tottenham and arsneals fortunes are totally fli flopped from the first day of the season

 

Where did I say the league ends in December? If you are too thick to know how to take your profits when the odds move in your favour (before the season ends) then tough because I cannot be arsed to explain to you...

 

Utd's League campaign ended in July when Moyes took over.

 

William Hill's Latest Title Odds.

Manchester City 13-8
Arsenal 5-2
Chelsea 11-4
Liverpool, Manchester United 10-1
Tottenham 66-1
Everton 100-1

Who can stop Manchester City? Only their away sickness!.

 

I have feeling Arsenal may do it. With City just falling short in 2nd.

Might have a fiver on Arsenal 1st and City 2nd.....

And also might have a fiver on City first and Arsenal 2nd...


Dribbles/Suarezforgoldenboot any chance of finding out the odds mate?

 

William Hill's title odds.

Arsenal 7-4
Man Ciity 7-2
Chelsea 7-2
Liverpool 8-1
Manchester United 28-1#
Tottenham 50-1
Everton 66-1
#Cannot remember the last time United are odd with title odds.

 

how the hell are evertons odds worse than utds? at some point yeah neither have a hope as is reflected in our odds at 8-1 despite being second in the table... but utd are way worse than everton.

 

Odds depends on the punters too. Obviously, less people will put money on Everton than Man Utd.

 

WRONG! Odds depends completely upon punter behaviour.

 

So punters set the odds when the book opens then?

 

Listening to Talksport earlier and they had a bookie on going through the latest odds after this weekend's matches.

Utd to win the league 28-1
Fourth spot (assuming City, Arsenal and Chelsea take top three) LFC clear favourites at 5 to 6 on

 

Dribbles posted the odds earlier (above):

 

Odds are not set in isolation of the punters. No point in any bookie even attempting to make a book at a rate which he knows will not interest the punters. Hence the opening odds already have punter behaviour built into them. Wake up Tobes!

 

It does not matter that Everton is currently much better than United but both have very little chance of winning the title. They look at previous history and which club could (against long odds) win the title. In that respect United have a better track record and more likely of the 2. They also assess the future matches and their difficulty.

Liverpool have difficult matches to come and these are reflected in the odds.

 

meh....

i'd say it is FAR more likely that they simply don't want too many mancs betting just in case... they don;t care if the 5 extra everton fans throw on £50 at 66/1.. they don't want 50,000 utd fans betting at 66/1... thats what the guys have said above.

its nothing to do with history. not in betting.

the only season lfc are 8/1 is cos we have half an average team and have a decent one so thats why our odds are nearly twice that of city of chelsea.... the bookies know lots of lfc fans will bet at that but its not just a big risk.

I still think that a team having lose only once but drawn as many as they've won should be taken more seriously than 66/1...

but hey... its like this, we've all seen internet betting trends. odds can be clashed in minutes by very few people betting... perhaps we can say that no everton fans are betting on thier side... wise or just small mentality

 

If you have a million people betting on Liverpool and one person on Chelsea, who do you think will have the better odds?

 

Latest odds.

William Hill.

Manchester City 7-4
Arsenal 9-4
Chelsea 7-2
Liverpool 8-1
Manchester United 25-1
Everton 50-1
Tottenham 50-1.

 

So a bookie setting the odds for a horse race does so with 'punter behaviour' as his sole guide?

Behave yourself, even you know that's absolute rot.

 

Oh please.

United are 6 points behind us & yet are half the odds we are.

The reason for that is solely down to the fact that they're the current champions & have a long history of coming strong in the 2nd half of seasons.

 

But we're not talking about horse racing, we're talking about the eventual title winners having already played fourteen games of the season. Of course the bookies make a judgement themselves prior to the season starting and based on the previous years plus signings etc, but the above odds aren't purely based on that now. Bookies spread the odds in their favour and therefore listen to the punters to limit the risk.

PS...sorry if this as been covered, couldn't be arsed to read back