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Aww Tobes and Astro liking each other's posts, ow sweet, if nothing else I have at least brought you two ******s together.
As for your climate arguments

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Tobes always first, then Astro and PJ show up

 

any more witchcraft lads? Maybe a rusty hinge in Jan means the sky will fall?

 

It's because Finland burns loss of fossil fuel, but produced 40% of its energy from renewables.....even his government have fallen for it, no wonder they have the highest suicide rate.....

As for floods 100's of years ago.....well they never dredged rivers then ;-)

 

What would the worlds oil/gas/LNG produces have to lose by admitting global warming? No need to spend money on cold fusion as fossil fuels/CO2 isn't doing any damage.....deserts are receding faster than glaciers!

I'm looking forward to the temp rise when trapped CO2 and methane are release from northern permafrosts

 

Average temperature in Finland has risen by more than two degrees
22.12.2014 10:15

Over the past 166 years, the average temperature in Finland has risen by more than two degrees. During the observation period, the average increase was 0.14 degrees per decade, which is nearly twice as much as the global average.

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According to a recent University of Eastern Finland and Finnish Meteorological Institute study, the rise in the temperature has been especially fast over the past 40 years, with the temperature rising by more than 0.2 degrees per decade. "The biggest temperature rise has coincided with November, December and January.

Temperatures have also risen faster than the annual average in the spring months, i.e., March, April and May. In the summer months, however, the temperature rise has not been as significant," says Professor Ari Laaksonen of the University of Eastern Finland and the Finnish Meteorological Institute. As a result of the temperature rising, lakes in Finland get their ice cover later than before, and the ice cover also melts away earlier in the spring. Although the temperature rise in the actual growth season has been moderate, observations of Finnish trees beginning to blossom earlier than before have been made.

Temperature has risen in leaps
The annual average temperature has risen in two phases, the first being from the beginning of the observation period to the late 1930s, and the second from the late 1960s to present. Since the 1960s, the temperature has risen faster than ever before, with the rise varying between 0.2 and 0.4 degrees per decade. Between the late 1930s and late 1960s, the temperature remained nearly steady. "The stop in the temperature rise can be explained by several factors, including long-term changes in solar activity and post-World War II growth of human-derived aerosols in the atmosphere. When looking at recent years' observations from Finland, it seems that the temperature rising is not slowing down," University of Eastern Finland researcher Santtu Mikkonen explains.

The temperature time series was created by averaging the data produced by all Finnish weather stations across the country. Furthermore, as the Finnish weather station network wasn't comprehensive nation-wide in the early years, data obtained from measurement stations in Finland's neighbouring countries was also used.

Finland is located between the Atlantic Ocean and the continental Eurasia, which causes great variability in the country's weather. In the time series of the average temperature , this is visible in the form of strong noise, which makes it very challenging to detect statistically significant trends. The temperature time series for Finland was analysed by using a dynamic regression model. The method allows the division of the time series into sections indicating mean changes, i.e. trends, periodic variation, observation inter-dependence and noise. The method makes it possible to take into consideration the seasonal changes typical of Nordic conditions, as well as significant annual variation.

For further information:
Finnish Meteorological Institute, Professor Ari Laaksonen, tel. +358405137900, [email protected]

University of Eastern Finland


Is that what you posted Tobes?

But he said it's really cold right now

In winter!

Fossil fuel shrill

 

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He needs to learn the difference

What do you think @Tobes

 

Chemtrails #confirmed

 

so I had Tobes talking about Apollo missions yesterday, and you about Chemtrails today, even though I already told you I am skeptical about them.When climate nonsense and supersticion fail, swtich bait eh..
#fail

 

That's not what you were saying a while back when in withdrawal and there were some clouds passing by

 

So it is safe to say that Finland is ran by a set of clima tards now, publishing false data?

Unless someone can prove that there was a 2 degree increase in temperature? Hold on, the article above does just that, but CO2 is good. But Finland get 40, that's right 40% of its energy from these sources. SISU, what sort of country have you made your home in?

Chemtrails, clima tards and the government making up stats and investing in renewables when oil, coal and gas are just fine?

 

You better make sure they are dredging the rivers this year to prevent floods


Maybe that will be an excuse for more Andritz Hydro work for me......flooding makes lakes and hydro makes me money

 

I dont call weather climate mate, fail
Another false argument

As for the warming, even with the data alterations most of the warming of the 20th century happened before 1960, again, what caused it if not CO2.

he goes off and hunts for the first article he can find and thinks it is full of win

Finland's temperature, which I wont even dispute cos I dont know, to link that to CAGW as evidence, is the most ******ed thing ever.

When I post about the arctic it is because they claim it is melting, I dont say it disproves AGW, you idiots

Full of fail

I should hope Finland has warmed a lot in 166 years and thank god, road tax for taxis is the guts of 10 grand a year for big cars due to damage to roads from cold amnd snow tires, Helsinki city centre also needs underground has to stay open. Dopes

 

To put 2 degrees over 166 years into context, the difference between night temperature and day temperature can be 40 or more degrees c. That's in 24 hours, 40 degrees, and ye are talking 2 ****ing 2 degrees in 166 years

 

I don't normally reply directly to you, but when I do its with a heavy heart.

Climate and weather are different you say? I dues nearly 100 years of temperature increases will revert as CO2 increases.

And the Finnish government are much a for getting 40% of all energy from renewables.

Big cars are not the problem, it's the winter freeze/thaw and poor road surfaces laid. Around the airport is abysmal, but that is what happens when the clima tards invest in renewables. Sweden and Norway don't have the terrible rods they do in Finland. It's the national joke.

 

But that is still an average temperature rise you ******.

Unless it's all false data, or the number you state are false?

 

2 can play the nonsensical argument game
updated 12.1.2015 10:56
Utsjoki breaks cold record – twice
Near the top of Finland in Lapland, Utsjoki broke the record for the winter's coldest temperature on Saturday with a reading of -37.3 degrees Celsius. On Sunday, it broke its own record when the Finnish Meteorological Institute recorded a temperature of -39.6 degrees Celsius in the same northern municipality.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/utsjoki_breaks_cold_record__twice/7731458
No one likes talking about cold records getting smashed.

You fools, I didn't even check how many times it was broken in the past 50 years like.
I guess Tobes can say that cold record is global warming aka man made climate change

The US has smashed thousands of records in the past 3 years, literally, Greenland and the arctic currently smashing inland ice gain records Those are climate..

But FInland warmed 2 degrees in 166 years, most of which was before 1980....

 

So you don't confuse weather and climate, but you do confuse day and night

 

Is that a steady average decrease over 166 years. Or a freak?

It's a freak and as such I will just laugh at how desperate that makes you look

 

So what caused it before 1980 then cos Europe and the US were bloody freezing during the late 40s 50s 60s and eartly 70s? Regardless of NASA data tampering, it is historically recorded, **** was cold while CO2 went up.. queue the false unsubstanciated aerosols claim backed by NOTHING

So.. from 1840 or something till 1980, wtf warmed Finland until then if not CO2?

You nut bag, you are saying a steady rate, what even before 1980.. that would indicate it is not Co2. Jesus christ like are you that dim you cant work it out

 

in short if you or the others think that article in any way shows or proves anything, you need your heads checked and it is yet more embarrassment at a complete lack of understanding of the subject. No data also. Not even a chart

Really embarrassed for Tobes if he thought that post meant something. Shows how hard he is struggling to understand the subject. Desperation, stinks..