Off Topic Dark Matter and other Astronomy information.

Radio signals from emissions from the alleged supermassive black hole, it eats a star yet our own alleged SMBH let a cloud of hydrogen pass unmolested last year?

They are reading radio emissions and interpreting them through their belief in the mathematical salad that modern astrophysics has become.

The article even talks the usual tripe about black holes as if they are the stuff of empirical reults

The image is absolutely misleading

 

Alledged radio signals.


It's all a front for chemtrails

 

When it comes down to it unless you've experienced or seen light bending [just as one example from this thread] you believe whichever to you seems the most convincing argument, for or against. You can change your mind as many times as you like as new 'data' is released but at the end of the day you choose one side or the other. Sisu has chosen his side, and you, yours. Yet only one is the conspiracy theorist

 

Alledged radio signals, the same type of signals that gave us the Hulse-Taylor Pulsar?

Now I dont remember which way the whole gravity think is now going or who said what.....but to claim this is mathmatical rubbish etc is wrong

 

This is the abstract of the paper that the science media article is based on.

"The tidal disruption of a star by a supermassive black hole leads to a short-lived thermal flare. Despite extensive searches, radio follow-up observations of known thermal stellar tidal disruption flares (TDFs) have not yet produced a conclusive detection. We present a detection of variable radio emission from a thermal TDF, which we interpret as originating from a newly-launched jet. The multi-wavelength properties of the source present a natural analogy with accretion state changes of stellar mass black holes, suggesting all TDFs could be accompanied by a jet. In the rest frame of the TDF, our radio observations are an order of magnitude more sensitive than nearly all previous upper limits, explaining how these jets, if common, could thus far have escaped detection."

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/11/24/science.aad1182

As we see, they have been a long time looking for variations in thermal TDFs but have not found them, now they have found a signal and interpret as what they have always been looking for and if you dont buy relativity then the physics dont work for you.

They detected a signal, the science article really gives another impression, one of a star being consumed by a black hole, that is not what the paper is saying at all and article avoids the clear uncertainty in all of this. Note the abstact's use of words, "Suggesting", "Could be", those words are obfuscation, to conceal the uncertainty in their data. "Could be" means "could not be" too yet it is used in the positive context, denoting a preference for that outcome.

I know how to read these papers, I don't read science media because of their narrow scope of accepted science, and obviously the lame dumbing down science in order to get clicks.

 

It's what science is all about though isn't it, claiming, counter-claiming, revising, challenging. Lots of scientific 'facts' turned out to be wrong - the phlogiston theory, martian canals, phrenology even Einstein's static universe.

 

Pulsar are a Neutron star and Newtron stars deft physics, plus this whole mess is givng off serious EM and the boffin geniuses who love Einstein are calling this energy "gravitational waves". If there is a source of the gravitational wave, and that source is moving, the grav field will move, there is no other option here

Utter nonsense, again born of taking relativity as gospel. How can you see anything else if you look at the universe through "relativity".

The more logical explanation, from observation, and experiment is that the event, the flash is electrodynamic, which would also explain the immense EM as such emissions from binary pairs also go further to explain the radio emissions, the binary bodies are interacting.

Instead we make up Neutron stars, which really defy the laws of physics, and have them spin at 1,5 times the speed of a dentist's drill, it is very possible that the binary objects are locked in a dance and don't rotate at all. But relativity doesn't allow for any of what I just said, cos Einstein thought the Milky way was the universe and he was unaware of the incalcuable amounts of plasma in space and it's part in Universe evolution, so everything must be explained by what he quantified, anything unquantified apparently is irrelavent no matter how physically real.

Recent findings on Pulsar, defies the model, alternates radio emission types, something a pulsar could never do, plus this was 100 times brighter than the max brightness of theory.

No one has ever seen a pulsar, only the flashes, essentially massive energy coming from a tiny area of space.

 

Nope. Didn't bother reading on.

 

Sea level rises..

basically what the media never read. The summary that is edited to **** by policy makers, is what everyone gets from the media.

So this is not mentioned much, IPCC 1990 report chapter 9. This is the sort of dissent that has been "purged" over the last 25 years. Administrators of organisations openly admit getting rid of deniers in their departments. #science

Chapter 9 / section 9.3.3
https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_09.pdf

"Accelerations in Sea Level Rise
Is there evidence of any "accelerations" (or departures from long-term linear trends) in the rate of sea level rise From examinations of both composite regional and global curves and individual tide gauge records, there is no convincing evidence of an acceleration in global sea level rise during the twentieth century. For longer periods, however, there is weak evidence for an acceleration over the last 2-3 centuries.

Long-term analyses are hundered by the scarcity of tide-gauge records longer than 100-120 years. Data are limited to a few stations in Europe and North America. Woodworth(1990) inspected individual tide-gauge records in Europe and found that although there is no general evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) rate of MSL change during the past century, a regionally coherent acceleation of the order of .4mm/year per century is apparent over the last 2-3 centuries. This finding is supported by Gornitz and Solow (1989) who find a weak evidence for an increase in trend around 1895. Similar to conclusions reached by Ekman (1988) and from an examination of one of the longest tige-gauge records, at stockholm. Extension of such findings on the global scale however should be carried with caution."


So, not only has the temperature record history been altered, and the ocean warming exaggerated well above the Argo system measured 0.03c\decade (if you remove "calibration" 0.03c\decade is the results), but they have gone and taken ^^ their own work and buried it, now claiming drastic sea rises

Ocean temp record changed to more dramatic, surface temp, also altered, ocean rise level, also altered, lies about Antarctica for 8 years at elast, most likely 30 years.

What I have shown is not "proof" of any individual case of fraud.

It is the systematic rewriting of histoy, Hansen at NASA basically pissed all over all of his own work he did all of his life when he altered the historical data. Hansen was apponted by politicains and his replacement has changed the data Hansen gave him in 2000 to what we have in 2015, so Schmidt pissed all over Hansen's work again by altering ALL of hansen's "reworked" data.

I don't buy that **** for one second. Hansen pisses all over his own work, and then schidt pissed all over Hansen's second go at it? Yet there was never one issue ever, no argument?

Are you that gullible? These people are appointed by politicians. They ****ing serve politics. Not science. They serve who supplies the kudos and money and toys for these people, you expect they have a crisis of conscience and throw all of that away. Give me a break, you don't know humans if you believe that.

Apparently erasing history and re writing it to your flavour for a political agenda, is not fraud.

 

You found your way back well done

I posted the vid, which references what you would call respected institutions, and the "pulsar" does what theory says is not possible, and it can't be patched lad, pulsars cannot alternate emissions, not as we think we understand them.

But you ignored that and went with a level 4 troll line.

You are consistent.

If you are bored, you can break down P M Robitaille's forty lines of evidence for condensed matter on the sun, and explain why it is a #meltdown

 

Before the nuts started blaming that red standby light being on over night on your TV, and light bulbs that actually produce some light, for the droughts in Syria, it was yo-yos that were causing the syrian droughts.

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We really are moving forward as a race

 

Renewable fraud. US style.

List of tax payer gifted renewables going or filed for bankruptcy and how much giftage they absorbed before going pop, just with Obama, globally it must be epic. * Already filed for bankruptcy

1. Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
2. SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
3. Solyndra ($535 million)*
4. Beacon Power ($43 million)*
5. Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
6. SunPower ($1.2 billion)
7. First Solar ($1.46 billion)
8. Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
9. EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
10. Amonix ($5.9 million)
11. Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
12. Abound Solar ($400 million)*
13. A123 Systems ($279 million)*
14. Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
15. Johnson Controls ($299 million)
16. Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
17. ECOtality ($126.2 million)
18. Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
19. Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
20. Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
21. Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
22. Range Fuels ($80 million)*
23. Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
24. Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
25. Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
26. GreenVolts ($500,000)
27. Vestas ($50 million)
28. LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
29. Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
30. Navistar ($39 million)
31. Satcon ($3 million)*
32. Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
33. Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)

http://dailysignal.com//2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/

All the money is in denial eh. Seriously?

 

That article is doing itself no favours with it's constant use of hyperbole, followed by a series of caveats about how the sentence they just wrote isn't actually true.

The list of corrections is lol too, e.g. "Azure Dynamics received $5.4 million from the federal government, not $120 million as originally reported."

 

I see you notice hyperbole all of a sudden and I do agree actually, yet 5.4 million is still a lot to be frauding the tax payer and investors all the same, and that is only one, either way it runs into a few billion. That's just the ones failing

It certainly doesn't add weight to any man made climate change debate, just pointing out the kind of shekels flowing around in one tiny area. Solar is getting shafted because solar is not the right tech if you want to make vast fortunes and swindle millions or billions in tax breaks, which we get to pay back through energy bills and taxes, nice dealio for anyone in a position to set up a shell of a renewble company, having the "right contacts" like say Dr Pachauri former long time head of the IPCC, I bet that **** has had his palm greased so much he can no longer grasp his own cock(which is why he was forcing that girl to do it for him) from the deals he no doubt helped go through, banking oil and renewable, all in bed together, and everyone thinks it is not so.


But how about that IPCC 1990 report and papers that they dropped like hot coals within 10 years, and also all the temerpature records for every place on earth, all re written, ocean rise and temp, re written, not disputed and you dont find it a bit odd? If that was my mehod of proving something, re writng history, you'd laugh in my vitrual face

Changing data till it says what you want, is certainly not science.

Here is proof global warming is real

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He nails it, If Cameron and Obama had their way on airstrikes, IS would control Syria like their bretherin control Libya

 

He also pretty much says everyting I've been saying for the last 2 years.

 

What struck me as strange was that all the actual scientists there have ever been since Einstein never took the time to sit down for five minutes and work this out.

 

So he can summarise the only sensible things you've said for 2 years in less than 18 minutes

Seems about right

 

Well those that did were all suppressed by the #conspiracy of Big Gravity