If he had a 'mental illness' shouldn't it had been picked up prior to signing at the 'medical'?
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I think Dani has a personality disorder rather than a mental illness. It could be sorted if he was willing, but it stems from a belief that he is always right so why would he attempt to change. If he behaved like that in public and had to appear in court, he might change his mind.
Personality disorder is a mental illness. It has been reckonised as one for ages. It is treated the same way as a few other mental illnesses with precog therapy.
I think most people would not consider most personality disorders (for there are many, not one as you imply) to be forms of mental illness. I have known lots of people who are selfish, egotistical, attention-seeking or pathologically insensitive (and not all of them on here
), but I would not necessarily have described them as "ill".
Moving away from the mental illness debate, let's hope there's some truth to this story and there's a bit of a bidding war in the summer.
I think most people would not consider most personality disorders (for there are many, not one as you imply) to be forms of mental illness. I have known lots of people who are selfish, egotistical, attention-seeking or pathologically insensitive (and not all of them on here
We don't all go around smacking people tho. When people act differently and have a lot of anger issues. People often just think the guy is a dick head and don't try to work out
what is coursing the issues. I agree he could just be a dick head, but won't rule out anything.
Mental illness is still seen as being made up by some. (Not saying people on here do that)
I don't agree with this tendency to class too many things as an illness...I think that is an insult to people who have real mental illness. Some people are just unpleasant and/or badly behaved and could overcome it if they had the will. Some children who are badly behaved and/or badly brought up are just hiding behind the small minority with real issues. I went to ordinary primary and junior schools in Paulsgrove in the fifties...with a poor catchment area...I do not remember one child who behaved badly on a regular basis. We all faced the front and were quiet in class...indulgence at home and at school means that too many children are classed as having behavioural problems. Imagine the resources that could be available to help children with autism and real problems if it wasn't being wasted on borderline children who would have been fine if they had just been taught to behave.
Exactly. I was a horrible child, if I were young now I would be 'diagnosed' with ADD (sorry ADHD now), put on Ritalin and wouldn't be where I am now.
Its nice to be able to label somebody's behaviour a "personality disorder" but I think it just makes excuses for people. The fact is some people are nice and some people are not so nice. That's life.
There are far more people with a mental illness then people believe. It is still seen as a taboo or a made up problem. We can't judge people with different kinds of illnesses just because one seems worse then the other. A child acting out could easily have ADHD.
I'm not saying every one acting out has a illness, but I wouldn't want to judge until it is proven.
And some people have inbalances in their brain that causes these problems. My mum works at a school and has a fewl children with ADHD aslong as they take their medicine they are perfectly nice children. One child changed so much (for the good) when on tablets that he is now a model student.
It is easy to just label a person a trouble maker and a loss course then it is to help them out.
As for saying you were horrible as a child. There is a difference from just being a normal hormone unbalanced child that will balance as they grow then a child with a mental illness.
If you ever read the DSM (the diagnostic manual for psychiatric disorders), because of the way these things tend to present as a range of symptoms from a checklist, but not necessarily all or even most of them, you could diagnose yourself with almost everything in there if you were so inclined, particularly things like anxiety disorders which just describe variations on normal human reactions. There are situations where it's normal to feel anxious after all.
This results in every difficult child being put on ritalin or whatever and although that will often have a beneficial effect, I'm not sure that's right really. It's an easy solution for a lot of people and I think people can use these labels as a crutch. If you think "well the doctor says I have a disorder", you have an excuse to behave badly.
I don't want to downplay the seriousness of some mental illnesses, but there are a lot of people who are put on corrective medication who are not, by any normal definition, ill.
I know that, some people are just horrible human beings. I was more on about the simple I acted out and I wasn't ill so why are others treated as such thought.
Yes there will be people that milk it, when infact they aren't even ill. But I am just please we as a country are starting to treat and reckonise mental illness as a real illness.
Far too long has it be made out as being a made up illness. The simple you don't look ill so you can't be ill needs to end.
As an psychiatric nurse of many decades I'd agree. The DSM which is so often quoted has become rather too influenced by the good old USA and commercial chemists. People in distress do not always have to have a diagnosis or benefit from a label.
But can we please remember most sufferers of mental illness are often abused and subject to violence. Very, very few are violent or agressive themselves.
. . . and don't get me going about ADHD.
Would you rather it be over top in some places then how it use to be were mental illness was seen as being made up?
I agree doctors especially are all to quick to issue drugs out. But they do that for physical illness as well. I would rather it be over top so the people that need help get it. We will always get the people milking or playing the system.
That's a false dichotomy. I would rather a better balance were struck.
Incidentally, the newest version of the DSM is apparently much thinner than the last one, so it's clearly something the industry (if that's the right word) is looking at too.
It will never be totally balanced tho. What I was trying to say (but it didn't come out right) is I would rather a few people be diagnosed ill when they actually aren't then have a few ill people be left to deal with the troubles by themselves due to to strict guidelines.