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Daily Thread Saturday 12th October

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by stick, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    Picked 3 of his 5 :D nearly put the money down on trumpwt major as he is a beast of a horse but cant have him carries to much weight and hasnt been at his best as of late
     
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  2. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    Have done a obrien trixie at newmarket pays 54/1
     
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  3. Brough Tiger

    Brough Tiger Well-Known Member

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    How bad is the Dewhurst today?! The card looked very good a couple of weeks ago and now, for supposedly the best juvenile race in the country the turn out is appalling!

    Great White Eagle should win the middle park, has a touch of class about him that i dont think any of the others do
     
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  4. CaptainPops

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    One of my favourite races on today of the calendar year.. the Cesarewitch Newmarket 3.50pm. Bit of a lottery and can be a bit of a rough old race... the draw has been a big factor in the last 10 years - you dont want one high which taks out a lot of the leading hopes.

    I cant decide between 2 horses so I have a decent bet on both.

    Recession Proof 22/1 E.W GP 5 places. John Quinns charge has a touch of class and has run at cheltenham so should be able to cope with the pysicalities of this race. Trainer was runner up last year and can get some compensation for that.

    Brockwell 16/1 E.W GP 5 places. Tough and consistent sort who ran very well in the Northumberland Plate. A good yard stick for this race and same jockey Jason Hart booked that rode that day who takes some weight off..
     
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  5. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    What ho, troops! Hope everyone well. All about one race and one trainer for me today. I’m talking about the old Ces and the forum’s favourite, Mr Henderson. I’ve gone eachers on the Lieutenant (16/1) and Earth Amber (25/1), what a lovely name for a filly, by the way. I would have gone all in to win on the former but, I’m afraid, it’s going to be very hard for him to win from that draw (not saying its impossible but it’s considerably more difficult to win a Ces when drawn high) or as Mr Henderson so eloquently puts it ‘from the third county’! Have also had a very small stakes ‘Reverse Exacta’ on the pair because as they say round my way, ‘If anyone can, Mr Henderson can’.

    Good luck, one and all.
     
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  6. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    A couple of fancies in the 2 pin sticker flat handicap races for me.
    In the Cesarewitch I really like the chances of Recession Proof at around 22s ew. Now I know the 2011 Supreme Novices Hurdle is not the obvious form for this race but the subsequent quality of that race is plain for all to see. Following a very creditable 5th place in that race Recession Proof was off injured until his recent comeback on the flat. Consequently he has a featherweight further reduced by the claim of the my 2nd favourite apprentice, a plum draw and ROTO has tipped him up too. I would be surprised if he's not contesting the finish.
    At York I reckon Bogart at 18s is worth a little ew speculation. A course winner already this season he gets into today with effectively 1lb less when the jockey claim is factored in.
    Good luck all, good days racing ahead.
     
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  7. YouCanCallMeJeff

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    I like Leo Luna, I've been following him since his first run. Had a pipe opener lto on the flat, should be ready for a decent run out today
     
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  8. Brough Tiger

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    Looks like a lot of the forum are sweet on the chances of Recession Proof in the Ces. I dont bet on these big handicaps as my record useless and i dont really see the appeal of massive field bookies benefit handicaps but if i were to gamble my pennies it would be on Recession Proof. Well handicapped, had a good spin out a few weeks back to ready him for this and clearly has ability
     
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  9. CHIEF MECHANIC

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    KATTANGA KATTANGA brothers and fellow humans.
    a rare visit for me today---but had to pop in to spout on about my bet of the year.
    SEASIDE SIZZLER 3-50 NEWMARKET----laddies paying out on first 5,but that dont hassle me---cos its on the nose at 33s for the chief.
     
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  10. rudebwoy

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    Print Shiraz 500 hex--yard in top order--this a weak race -and got to give dean Ivory's Valid Reason in the long distance york race a chance to prove he's not a lost cause....
     
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  11. CaptainPops

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    Sound reasoning Brough re staying away from big field handicaps...i guess i enjoy the challenge and potentially an incident packed race...
     
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  12. Bostonbob

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    The Prescott horse on the Ces and nowt else for your Champ.
     
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  13. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    The card at York looks like one to avoid given the weather forecast. In the races over more than six furlongs, does anybody know whether they are going to stick to the far rail, come up the middle or switch the the stands rail? Since the drainage work was done York has become a complete lottery.

    The “Future Champions Day” card at Newmarket looks very trappy.

    Lasy year Dawn Approach scared off all but five rivals and whilst this year again only six face the starter in the Dewhurst Stakes this does not appear to be the result of a big name potential superstar. The favourite War Command looks very opposable as, other than his wide margin Coventry Stakes win (which now looks suspect), the balance of his form does not amount to a great deal. Chief amongst his rivals is Godolphin’s Outstrip but he will need to improve again on his Doncaster victory. Will Anjaal be allowed to take his chance? This could end up being like the Royal Lodge at the Cambridgeshire meeting so it might be worth just watching at the prices.

    The Middle Park Stakes has produced a numerically better line up but it is easy to find reasons not to support any of the principals in the betting. Great White Eagle has won both his starts but the form does not amount to much. Hot Streak turns out a week after a facile Ascot victory over five but is held on previous running by Supplicant over six at Newbury, where Shamshon was behind. Gimcrack winner Astaire could be the key to this race as one of two confirmed front runners (the other Justice Day was behind at York). If it were not for concerns about the going, Sudirman would be the one as his second to Toormore over seven in a Group 1 is the best form on offer. As it is the various form lines point to Supplicant but this might be best watched as the favourite could be anything.

    Given the dreadful record of favourites in the Cesarewitch it will be easy to write off whichever of Tiger Cliff and Pallasator punters make the jolly and the statistics say that both of them have too much weight. There does not appear to be any runner that is immediately identifiable as having improving form on what is likely to be dead ground so this is easily bypassed.

    The opener, the Challenge Stakes presents a bit of a quandary. Highland Colori steps into a Group 2 after his Ayr Gold Cup win but that might be too big a step. American import Darwin was turned over at odds-on last time on good ground and all his winning has been on quick going. With a couple of disappointing types in the field, the best bet looks to be Lockwood, a narrow second in a Doncaster Group 2 over this trip last time.
     
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  14. SaveTheHumans

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    Darwin 4/1 (nap) Nmrkt 2.05
    War Command 11/10 Nmrkt 3.10
    Fantasy King 4/1 Fairyhouse 4.20
    Morning Time 4/1 Hexham 5.30

    Goodluck everyone.
     
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  15. Ron

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    Very brave for one drawn 35. Good luck - 50s with BV and 60s with 32Red
     
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  16. LG

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    Newmarket Yankee
    2.05 Darwin
    2.35 Sudirman
    3.10 War Command
    4.55 Oklahoma City
     
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  17. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    Couldn't resist a dabble on Ze German horse in the first at Newmarket - Amarillo
     
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  18. You See

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    I like the price on sam sharp ew
     
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  19. OddDog

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    Keltus to star a good day for Paul Nicholls at Chepstow <ok>
     
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  20. CaptainPops

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