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Is there anyone who is happy for our name to be changed that actually thinks it WILL benefit us financially? Their own gut instinct, not because Mr. Allam says he thinks it will.
Interesting, the debate about how many "fans" do this, that, or the other. I suspect that, like most Premiership clubs, the number of people who describe themselves as Hull City fans is about 10 times the number who actually turn up for a home game. So the actual number who think of themselves as Hull City fans is about 250,000. Of that, the "true" hardcore is about 25,000 who turn up for some of the games (not all because not everyone can) Which being the case, 5,000 voting against the name change is 20% of the hardcore. Which is a pretty impressive figure. If 20% of the population voted for a single Political Party it would sweep into power. But of course statistics are only as good as the information behind them. For example 20% of the population can't vote because they are under 18. 20% don't vote because they can't be arsed. 20% don't because they don't understand what to do, and 20% of the population are probably illegal aliens! So the actual vote against can be seen as massive. But......we don't know how many of the votes against the name change are people who never go to a match. How many are "pseudonyms" for those who have already voted etc. How many are opposition fans taking the piss etc. Counting the number of badges or leaflets given out is meaningless, unless you are going to count the number dropped in the street, binned, or shoved in pockets never to be looked at again. The fact is, we don't know how many are for, or against, a name change. So anyone who claims the majority is using statistics just as viable as the ones in this post. Guesses at best, probably all bollocks. Name calling people who disagree with your point of view on this is unlikely to change anyone's mind.
BUt that's irrelevant Macca. Even though there is some truth, that's like saying the Labour party has won the election because you can't forget about the 1000's of Labour supporters who support us but didn't bother to vote. You can't use that in this context. I agree with Jay somewhat. 4500 signatures is quite petty to be honest. From AA's point of view, I certainly don't see how it would be scary, when you realise almost 150,000 Arabs/Egyptians (a few non arabs also I guess) have liked our Facebook page. Maybe that's your best bet. Tap into the Egyptian market. Find a translator and spread the word. That would certainly get AA's attention. Also I wouldn't want to count people who couldn't be bothered to go online and click a few buttons as supporters.
SO you want to base all of this on gut feeling? I have no idea if it will or not but I don't really think anyone on here has the necessary knowledge and experience to contradict this point either. People are assuming it won't bring in finances because it suits their agenda. I don't ****ing know if it will or if it won't but if I was to seek the answer, I doubt I would ask the folk on here. No offence taken.
It's not difficult is it , just keep the name of the club , sadly those who said it was because he had a problem with Hull City Council were absolutely right
The petition idea was always likely to give the Allams ammunition. Even if the petition gets 50,000 opposed to the name change Mr Allam can still say ah but the population of Hull and East Yorkshire is many times the number of signatures. From what I've read of the anti name change campaign I think they're very well organised but IMO the petition has backfired.
But isn't that what Mr Allam is doing? Has he got the necessary knowledge and experience of football marketing? It was a simple question, I just wanted to know if anyone on here thinks it will work. As no-one has said they do I will take it as a no so far.
I certainly think he is in a better position to know than me and everyone else on here. If people are demanding him to provide evidence, I certainly would expect those same people to provide their own as to why they think it won't bring in any added cash.
But he is not in a better position than you or me as he has admitted that he has done no research.The only reason he wants a rename is because Hull CITY Council rebuffed his approach for the ground and adjoining land and therefore his abhorence of the word "City". As an aside what terms was he seeking to gain the ground and land? For free?
Is it just the snub, or is it also the fact that the snub cut off a potential source of income for City to let us stand on our own feet?
If the Council didn't find what was being offered acceptable what were they supposed to do.Under legislation affecting public assets they would be clearly restricted as to the terms which they could deal with the sale of the stadium/land. When the Council sold the shares which financed the stadium if they had been able to use the money to build affordable housing or other wider beneficial public use don't you think that option would have been taken although i do appreciate the benefit to HCAFC and which i enjoy?
Except, of course, that there is evidence that the potential name change has brought in one massive sponsor.
