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Crown to appeal Celtic fan's not guilty verdict

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  1. Jip Jaap Stam

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    That's not what it says in the Quran. It encourages believers to be "harsh" towards non-believers.
     
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    Which is why I said that schools teach to a particular ethos. The assertion was that all religions teach that people of faith are 'better'. This is clearly untrue. If a school were to promote an ethos that was as damaging as saying "you are better than non-believers", than I am sure OFSTED might have something to say about it.
     
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    Marxism and liberation theology are not strange bedfellows but lets not lend any credence to the assertion that the IRA were campaigning on behalf of a religion.

    I was asked how I could reconcile the two. My answer was personal to me.
     
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    Depends what parts of the Quran you want to place most stock in. Islam is exremely good at getting its folliwers to promote their faith and entice new members. A lot of faiths promote that ideal. Being harsh towards them is one surefire way to defeat that end.
     
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    Religion and nationalism are for people that cannot think for themselves.

    The world would be a better place without both.
     
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    Actions speaks louder than words.
     
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    Surely just by saying that non-believers won't go to heaven (which most religions do), you're implying that believers are superior?
     
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    I don't see it like that. Evangelising is done to promote the individual faiths and the benefits of those faiths. Some would include entry into heaven or whatever but that is to reach out rather than say one is better.
     
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    <ok> Hairy muff
     
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    I do have links to religious schools actually but do not see the need for them. There are lots of subjects that people consider to be important and that they may want their children to learn and are not part of the national curriculum. They pay for them through private tuition. There is no reason whatsoever to have faith schools and no reason why taxpayers should have to fund them.
     
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    Why don't we teach about buggeration in schools?

    That is factual.
     
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    <laugh> Some people claim to have Jedi as their religon. Are we going to fuind a load of schools run by Obe one Kenobi?
     
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    Exactly, like I said yesterday I and many others believe in aliens, so can we introduce this to schools?

    It's as factual as God or the Big Bang.
     
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    <laugh>

    My school had loads of ****s who looked like they were auditioning for an episode of the X-Files. Does that count?
     
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    Remove Faith schools and you don't remove the requirement to provide education to children.

    Removal of additional funding from whatever Faith based organisation is providing it would invariably result in poorer standards.

    Bearing in mind that all Publicly funded schools adhere to the National curriculum.
     
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    Some religious stories do provide valuable moral lessons. But I don't like the idea of children being taught that biblical accounts are factual (as was done in my C of E school for example). The faith schools are often better rated by OFSTED, so it's almost as though parents have to accept a degree of indoctrination for their child if they want them to get a good education.

    We've had to admonish my born again Christian mother-in-law recently as my 4 year-old daughter has been parroting her dogma. Jesus loves us, apparently. All of us. And now she thinks her recently departed great grandad will come back to life soon like Jesus <doh>
     
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    I appreciate that. But I think we have to accept a difference in Faith teaching and Faith schools.

    It is difficult to quantify because we can all only relate back to our own experiences but I would expect that not too many Faith schools would teach things as you have been.
     
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