Crime - part deux.

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Well, from what Spurly and brb have said here about the golders stabbing event i am inclined the think the guy that did it would have stabbed anybody he bumped into that day and religeon/race had **** all to do with it.
We always look for reasons when the trueth is there are no reasons or specific targets.
 
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Clearly he's insane init
Clearly, I wouldn't even dream of disputing that, an out and out nutter.

I expect certain narratives and media stories didn't help the situation. In his head I mean.

Something triggered him that morning for sure.

I don't think that's the fault of Muslims btw, I think it's the fault of what his brain has been fed.

We are capable of keeping things in context, sadly and gravely he wasn't.

Probably shouldn't have been walking the streets long before what happened.

War has far reaching consequences.
 
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Well, from what Spurly and brb have said here about the golders stabbing event i am inclined the think the guy that did it would have stabbed anybody he bumped into that day and religeon/race had **** all to do with it.
We always look for reasons when the trueth is there are no reasons or specific targets.
Think I'll leave that to the court decide, otherwise I'd disagree at this point for certain psychological reasons that I can't prove.

Be interested to know what happened between him and his longtime friend, and yes how that links to what followed.

Oh well wait for the trial
 
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Think I'll leave that to the court decide, otherwise I'd disagree at this point for certain psychological reasons that I can't prove.

Be interested to know what happened between him and his longtime friend, and yes how that links to what followed.

Oh well wait for the trial

Looking at the first pic they were showing (apparently 2008) and the video footage of him on the stab, might just be that his mate triggered him by eating the last piece of chicken from their bargain bucket ...
 
Well, from what Spurly and brb have said here about the golders stabbing event i am inclined the think the guy that did it would have stabbed anybody he bumped into that day and religeon/race had **** all to do with it.
We always look for reasons when the trueth is there are no reasons or specific targets.

Weird he decided to travel to Golders Green then.
 
Well, from what Spurly and brb have said here about the golders stabbing event i am inclined the think the guy that did it would have stabbed anybody he bumped into that day and religeon/race had **** all to do with it.
We always look for reasons when the trueth is there are no reasons or specific targets.

As I've just said on the Spurs board, he travelled an hour across London on crowded trains to a specifically Jewish area. Didn't stab anyone in that time.

I have also heard firsthand from shopkeepers in the vicinity of the attack that he walked past people who didn't look Jewish.

You can ignore those pieces of information with pleasure.

It could well be that he and his friend argued about his planned attack. Maybe his friend tried to stop him getting on that train and he lashed out at him?
 
It shocks me how the Quran is mis interpreted, like the misuse of the Torah shocks you, and it shocks many many other Muslims how these individuals with clear mental issues do what they do.

I live amongst and interact with the everyday Muslims as a way of my life. These Muslims are 1st, 2nd and 3rd generational Muslims with lives and families set up in this country to live by and abide by the laws. We contribute to the community and we are law abiding with those amongst us who break laws rightly dealt with by the laws of the land.

Some idiot gets asylum or got on a boat...neither by my help or by the help of any other Muslim to my knowledge. Probably escaping from a country pillaged by the West...been here a few years, happens to be a Muslim and causes atrocities now we all have to make a speech condemning them and getting insecure about our faith?

We don't have one central leader or anything like that. We live our Islam with our families and extended communities...it is a way of life not a club with a leader. We as collective communities and individuals are not here to be made to feel like we must make a mass speech condemning due to common ground of sharing a faith. Which some clearly don't live by to it's true meanings, that's a human thing. Every time someone claiming to be Muslim farts in a room isn't because the Quran said it, it's because they don't know how to control their own arsehole.

Muslim or not the law can deal with the law breakers just like the non Muslims don't have to make some collective speech, nor do Muslims as far as I'm concerned.

In the meantime most Fridays we have sermons aimed at how to improve our lives as individuals and a collective...how to contribute to society through our teachings and to enjoin good. Most of us are not morons who need to prove that we all don't harbour these stabby thoughts as soon as someone has a meltdown. Plus, if any of you are ever interested then feel free to visit mosques and sit in on the sermons and do your due diligence on your insecurities and suspicions, no appointments needed, just go and do it.


Me, born and raised in England...been here 50 years and know 100's of generational Muslims here...not 1 single one has ever been in bother for anything terrorist related. So the likes of myself don't give a **** and don't believe we should, every time some random who's gone on a stabby spree or such like, have to make some special condemnation. I think it's disingenuous to suggest that these individuals are empowered by the silence of the rest of us etc like that is going to turn their thoughts. Like I've said here time and time again through the years...do you or others think that these people are sat at home with family or in the coffee shops and mosques whilst discussing their plans? Criminal and mentally disturbed minds don't do that. You think the whole community is in on it when someone is about to have a stabby meltdown?

Every time a Muslim commits a crime in a Muslim country there's a reason why we don't all have to give a collective apology like a bunch of melts it's because the error of their way is on the individual...just like when some Brits get caught trying to smuggle drugs and gets the death penalty in Thailand. You don't hear anyone saying, now please can the rest of you condemn this, especially if you are of an Athiestic belief like the perpetrators.

How many Muslims do any of you know enough to have had any normal conversations with in order to learn about them and their every day thinking?

Me, as a Muslim got no time for special speeches condemning Somalian Sucky's every time they have a violent meltdown.

Catch em, jail em, deport them, get on with it and do a better job of vetting them in the first place... leave the rest of us the **** alone.

Anyway

Morning prayers done

Glory be to Allah

back to bed

Cmon Brentford

Bloody hell.

Does this come with its own Tafsir? <laugh>
 
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As I've just said on the Spurs board, he travelled an hour across London on crowded trains to a specifically Jewish area. Didn't stab anyone in that time.

I have also heard firsthand from shopkeepers in the vicinity of the attack that he walked past people who didn't look Jewish.

You can ignore those pieces of information with pleasure.

It could well be that he and his friend argued about his planned attack. Maybe his friend tried to stop him getting on that train and he lashed out at him?
I suppose in fairness to Diego, like me he didn't know that detail. Hence why I said I disagreed with him at that point until whatever comes out in the court. I hasten to add I certainly don't ignore that type of information because it's very much relevant - I was on my phone last night and too lazy to go and look how far he had travelled, but it was certainly in my mind.

Your last paragraph is very close to my train of thought, maybe his mate didn't stop going on about certain things and it tipped him over the edge, causing him to lash out, ie kill him, then exact revenge for what he had just done OR maybe it is exactly as you say - his mate was going to stop him - at this point we just don't know. We can only guess all sorts of scenarios and be completely wrong.

I'd like to think his mate tried to stop an evil deed and paid with his life.
 
I suppose in fairness to Diego, like me he didn't know that detail. Hence why I said I disagreed with him at that point until whatever comes out in the court. I hasten to add I certainly don't ignore that type of information because it's very much relevant - I was on my phone last night and too lazy to go and look how far he had travelled, but it was certainly in my mind.

Your last paragraph is very close to my train of thought, maybe his mate didn't stop going on about certain things and it tipped him over the edge, causing him to lash out, ie kill him, then exact revenge for what he had just done OR maybe it is exactly as you say - his mate was going to stop him - at this point we just don't know. We can only guess all sorts of scenarios and be completely wrong.

I'd like to think his mate tried to stop an evil deed and paid with his life.

Fair enough.

Someone who doesn't live in London wouldn't immediately fathom the sheer distance from Southwark to Golders Green, or the fact that travelling there by train even off peak would have put hundreds of people in his immediate path, none of whom he attempted to stab.
 
Fair enough.

Someone who doesn't live in London wouldn't immediately fathom the sheer distance from Southwark to Golders Green, or the fact that travelling there by train even off peak would have put hundreds of people in his immediate path, none of whom he attempted to stab.
From merely my perspective, although the thought process wondered where he came from, I'd actually never went and looked to see if the media had said. At least that's cleared up now.
 
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"In the past 20 years, Islamic extremists have killed 95 (over 900 injured, from google) people in the UK. The ‘far right’ that we endlessly hear of has killed three. In 2020, it was reported that of the 43,000 extremists monitored by MI5, more than 90 per cent were Islamists.

Recent events bear this out. Who attacked the Heaton Park synagogue in October? Who allegedly set fire to four Hatzola ambulances in Golders Green last month? Who was recently convicted for planning to gun down as many Jews as their ammunition allowed at a march against anti-Semitism in Manchester in 2024? It wasn’t the far right. It wasn’t someone who had been ‘radicalised’ by watching Tommy Robinson videos. It was Islamists or suspected Islamists in every case."


"The United Arab Emirates now discourages students from studying in Britain because of the pervasive influence of the Muslim Brotherhood. That a Muslim country can identify a threat that the British authorities can’t, or won’t, hardly inspires optimism."


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