Crime - part deux.

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Lizzy isn't terrible but its Charles next... Then William.
I don't like Charlie. His fat sausage fingers knock me ill.

William seems a decent guy but a right boring ****er.

They should raffle the monarchy. Let one of us scruffs have a go.
 
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I don't like Charlie. His fat sausage fingers knock me ill.

William seems a decent guy but a right boring ****er.

They should raffle the monarchy. Let one of us scruffs have a go.



I honestly don't see the point of the monarchy. The usual arguments "they bring in tourists" (no they're coming to see the monuments and palaces). "They own the crown estate so would hurt the UK" (no the Crown Estate belongs to the UK, in exchange for the country paying former royal gambling debts).

The royal family are just parasites living off society and feeding red top papers.
 
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I honestly don't see the point of the monarchy. The usual arguments "they bring in tourists" (no they're coming to see the monuments and palaces). "They own the crown estate so would hurt the UK" (no the Crown Estate belongs to the UK, in exchange for the country paying former royal gambling debts).

The royal family are just parasites living off society and feeding red top papers.

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It's an outdated institution that belongs back in the 17th Century.

I'm all for having an elected head of state, who would have constitutional powers and the ability to reign in the PM. And I would even be open to the idea of keeping Monarch as head of state, as long as the rest of the family were binned off in terms of holding Royal status and all of the (taxpayer paid) trappings that come with it

Oh and yes, the pay off Noncey Andrew has paid, would indirectly come from us, as the Royal family's assets originally came from land and property that was 'given' to them and from which they draw substantial income from to this day. The Queen is also paid the Sovereign Grant from taxpayers money, from which Noncey Andrew has been getting £250k per year from along with money from the Duchy of Lancashire.

He's also been given some properties by the Queen, which has seen him amass a net worth of around £35m

So yes, in a nutshell. Noncey Andrew's sordid behaviour has been bought off using our money
 
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It's an outdated institution that belongs back in the 17th Century.

I'm all for having an elected head of state, who would have constitutional powers and the ability to reign in the PM. And I would even be open to the idea of keeping Monarch as head of state, as long as the rest of the family were binned off in terms of holding Royal status and all of the (taxpayer paid) trappings that come with it

Oh and yes, the pay off Noncey Andrew has paid, would indirectly come from us, as the Royal family's assets originally came from land and property that was 'given' to them and from which they draw substantial income from to this day. The Queen is also paid the Sovereign Grant from taxpayers money, from which Noncey Andrew has been getting £250k per year from along with money from the Duchy of Lancashire.

He's also been given some properties by the Queen, which has seen him amass a net worth of around £35m

So yes, in a nutshell. Noncey Andrew's sordid behaviour has been bought off using our money
If we had an elected head of state at one stage it could have been Tony Blair - be careful what you wish for .
 
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If we had an elected head of state at one stage it could have been Tony Blair - be careful what you wish for .


If he only had limited powers, so what? Does Prince Charles (who, when he was younger once said Britain's forces should be mercenaries for other countries during peacetime) sound a better option than one who is elected?


You can get a bad head of state no matter how they're chosen, the trick is not making them too powerful.
 
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If we had an elected head of state at one stage it could have been Tony Blair - be careful what you wish for .

I'd rather have an elected head of state than one who's there by succession due to being in the 'right' family.

And if you did elect a bad one, at least people would have the democratic right to elect somebody else.
 
If he only had limited powers, so what? Does Prince Charles (who, when he was younger once said Britain's forces should be mercenaries for other countries during peacetime) sound a better option than one who is elected?


You can get a bad head of state no matter how they're chosen, the trick is not making them too powerful.
if they have no power just a constitutional role whats the point of in going to the effort of electing someone in what will just be a popularity contest .
 
if they have no power just a constitutional role whats the point of in going to the effort of electing someone in what will just be a popularity contest .


It doesn't have to be ceremonial, just limit the power. No one should have too much power in any system.
 
he was elected originally in not particularly bent elections .

Do you think non-elected leaders are better? Saddam? The Kim's of North Korea? The house of Saud?

You can get bad leaders no matter how you choose them. I'd rather one elected than hereditary. At least with elected officials you can boot them out when you've had enough of their crap.
 
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Do you think non-elected leaders are better? Saddam? The Kim's of North Korea? The house of Saud?

You can get bad leaders no matter how you choose them. I'd rather one elected than hereditary. At least with elected officials you can boot them out when you've had enough of their crap.
Our hereditary leaders have no real power at all except in the most extreme circumstances .
 
It was never about the money she said….

Seems it was.

In the settlement he has had to state that:
1. She had suffered abused
2. That he never meant to malign her character
3. That she has suffered from unfair public attacks
And
4. She was brave to stand up against sexual attacks on herself and others.

Maybe this huge climb down (from the **** he has been spouting) meant she has been vindicated and didn't wanna risk being humiliated in court like many are when they accuse people of abusing them.
 
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