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Cricket One day series

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Number 1 Jasper, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. SAINTDON13

    SAINTDON13 Well-Known Member

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    Boparas dismissal just about sums things up! All over.
     
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  2. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Cook has to go as one day captain.
     
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  3. fatletiss

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    Bopara spend too long trying to save his arse rather than win the game. Dabbing singles was not the tactic with 12 balls left. There were two or three balls he could have cut for four with not much difficulty. Jordan at least looked like he wanted to try the right shot.
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    We looked like we wanted to lose that match and we succeeded. That was truly depressing, because it says something about character and judgement.
     
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  5. CBK

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    He's played 100 ODI's and he STILL doesn't take the bull by the horns and is ALWAYS a ****-up about to happen. His dismissal may have been freakish, but for me he's always been an unlucky player. Just something about him that I don't like... yet England management apparently DO like.

    I presume Carberry can finally come home now after sitting on his arse for the last month?
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Ravi has to know where the bodies are buried....
     
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  7. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The thing that has always been in Ravi's favour before this series was his bowling. It can be pretty handy in ODI cricket, and since Collingwood retired he's really only one of two guys (the other being Luke Wright) who can offer that seam bowling option in the top six, if selected. And you need a minimum of five bowling options in ODI cricket, you can't get around that.

    But now we have Stokes (at last! I've been banging that drum basically since his Durham debut!). Suddenly Ravi's bowling isn't as important any more. And someone does need to make way for KP going forward (and maybe others too. Hales to come in? Taylor maybe?).
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Ravi's basically a crap Adam Hollioake.
     
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  9. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    What an innings from Bopara. In a losing cause though. England make 200/9 off their 20 overs but the Aussies made 213/4. Bopara finishes on 65 not out off 27 balls with 7 sixes.
     
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  10. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Bloody hell , forgot about the t 20 series .
     
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  11. fran-MLs little camera

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    This suffering will never stop. At least we got close...was afraid we would be slaughtered.
     
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  12. CBK

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    Same old story this morning. Another wrong team selection for the pitch. Dernbach continues to be utter **** everytime he plays. The so called "in form" players like Lumb & Wright play **** when they pull on an England shirt.

    As far as the test side goes, Andy Flower has just resigned.
     
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  13. Puck

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    I think he's been sacked actually but it amounts to the same thing. KP for vice captain now?
     
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  14. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    KP can **** right off .

    If as I suspect Flower said it's him or me , and they have said " Ok good bye then Andy " , the board want shooting !!!
     
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  15. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I can understand us losing some games against the Aussies, but I cannot understand how we can go from a top side to crap in all formats in a matter of months. Makes no sense.
     
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  16. Puck

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    Well making that sort of demand is what got KP sacked as captain so if Flower said that he's an idiot.

    Personally I think his departure is more to do with the culture and atmosphere within the team. Flower is a very intense individual and there's plenty of evidence of (excessive?) micro-management of players. That sort of approach doesn't always work and can lead to players losing the ability to think for themselves, something that a few people seem seem to think has happened with the England team.
     
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    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    Well said Puck.

    With hindsight I agree . Who next as Manager ?
     
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  18. CBK

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    It's been coming, the cracks have been there for over a year, but I don't think anyone expected a wholesale collapse on all fronts at the same time.

    Think the selectors need a good look at themselves, often seem to pick players not suited to certain wickets/conditions. Plus there continues to be these "favourite players" that get chance after chance.

    I know Botham goes on and on about there being far too many "support" staff that just get in the way around the players, but he's probably right. Australia have taken it "back to basics" and think that's what England need to do
     
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  19. Puck

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    It'll almost certainly be Ashley Giles.
     
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    I think so too. I would like Vaughan to be able to get involved in some capacity or even Nassar, both have great cricket brains. Just don't let Nassar, advise on what do do if we win the toss.
     
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