Off Topic Coyote Canyon Game Thread

You know what lads, even i can't remember who i was, what i was or where i was, i just played the usual random nut as always

 

VOTE ACS

 

You bastard.

Vote BRB

I was the only random nut in this village.

 

I interpreted it differently:
My possible conclusions (not certain but to keep in mind)

Day 1
Magic [Gang Leader McG] 3 (Danilo, Bodanki, Bobby)
Swarbs [Burglar] 3 (Klooopp, JPF, AFC) - LYNCHED
JPF [Guard] 2 (DPP, Musty)
RHC [Arsonist McG] 2 (Tobes, Gerrez)
Mustyfrog [??] 2 (Astro, Valley)
Klooopp [Thief McG] 1 (Swarbs)
Tobes [Coachman] 1 (RHC)
Astro [??] 1 (Tennis)
Danilo [Asonist Don] 1 (Style)
DPP [??] 1 (Biscan)
@ So Bodanki definitely not McGraws

Day 2
Chaos [SK] 11 (RHC, Bodanki, Mikey, Tash, Danilo, Tennis, Astro, Gerrez, AFC, Obi, Valley, GCB, Brb)
Tash [Hired Gun Don] 5 (ACS, Biscan, Jakarta, Musty, Mitro)
RHC [Arsonist McG] 3 (Sebb, Bobby, Chaos)
Obi [??] 1 (DPP)
@ IBWT voted Tash so maybe not Donaldson?

Day 3
ACS [Gunsmith] 7 (DPP, Bodanki, Biscan, Danilo, Jakarta, Brb, Astro, Gooner)
Brb [Thief Don] 5 (Tennis, Obi, Musty)
Biscan [??] 1 (Tash)
Tash [Hired Gun Don] 4 (Bobby, Sebb, Nolberto, ACS)
@ Tennis voted Brb so not Donaldson. (I know I'm not, it's for your benefit) Obi Wan voted Brb so maybe not Donaldson? Musty voted Brb so maybe not Donaldson?
@ Sebb voted Tash so maybe not Donaldson? Nolberto voted Tash so maybe not Donaldson?
@@ so DPP or Astro Donaldson? (making major guesses but worth bearing in mind)

My reasoning is that Donaldsons have been near lynches plenty of times, so we can get a better idea of the votes for them. Mafia will often vote for their own if they're not near the lynch to distance themselves.
DPP and Astro have never voted for a Donaldson as far as we know.

 

TOWN, DESPERATE TIMES

Here's what we have left.

The Town Jail (has a QT board)
Sheriff DEAD
Deputy - now a tradesman

The Town Bank (has a QT board)
Bank Manager DEAD
2 X Bank Guards DEAD

Coachmen (has a QT board)
2 X Coachmen DEAD

The Town Tavern (has a QT board)
Inn Keeper
Brothel Madame
Barman
Tavern Whore

Tradesmen (Each with an individual QT board)
3 X Town Traders only 1 left (2 if you count former deputy above)

The Doc (Individual QT board)

Town Priest (Individual QT board)

Vigilante (Individual QT board) DEAD

That's a maximum of 8, but quite likely two have been recruited by now, so likely to be 6v2v2 plus we don't know about Sebb and Musty.

 

Also that is a sub team of 4 plus 4 individual players, who won't know for sure who each other are.

So once again, TAVERN TEAM. Show your hand. No other team can have 4 (I don't think).

You, guys have the biggest, power play. Work together, AND pull the rest in with you FFS.

 

@Bodanki @goonercymraeg @Mikey

You have associated yourselves. In particular Bod and Gooner who CONFIRMED each other as innocent. There is no Town team of 2 or 3 left.
So who else do you think in0s innocent Town. You only have one option of being Town that knows each other and that needs a fourth member. Either shout them up, or I am hoping that 4 others jump on you now.

NOTE to those who didn't see it but Mikey may or may now be part of that groip. BOD and GOONER both CONFIRMED eachother as innocent. Whereas Bod said he 'thinks' Mikey is, sothey could just be a team of 2 pulling in Mikey to trust them.

 

A smart move, if you haven't already, would have been for one to visit the chapple. Then you would have a potential trusted team of 5!

 

@Less Hope Than Neville could you check my QT board please? I need to check I'm allowed to ask a certain something before I post it!

 

I'm going to be busy at work as I have a ton of stuff due today, so I'll put my summary up and then my proposed strategy for you guys to see if you think it's worthwhile.

Summary of roles

Town-Bandit McGraws-Bandit Donaldsons-SK-Burglar-Unknowns
8-1-1-0-0-2 plus possible recruits
12 alive, 19 dead

Bad guys - 2 (plus recruits)

Bandit McGraws - 1+2? (QT board)
Investigator (now Gang Leader) - ?? [50% accuracy]
Std Recruit - Perhaps
Special Recruit - Perhaps

Bandit Donaldsons - 1+2? (QT board)
Investigator (now Gang Leader) - ?? [50% accuracy]
Std Recruit - Perhaps
Special Recruit - Perhaps

TOWN - 8

Town Jail team - 1 (QT board)
Deputy (now Trader) - ?? [60% accuracy]

Town Tavern team - 4 (QT board)
Inn Keeper - ?? [35% accuracy]
Brothel Madame - ?? [35% accuracy]
Barman - ?? [25% accuracy]
Tavern Whore - ?? [25% accuracy, delay 2-day kills every night] Loves killing townies.

Tradesmen team - 1 (QT board each)
Trader 1 - ?? [35% accuracy]

Doctor team - 1 (QT board)
Doctor - ?? [35% accuracy]
Invincibility potion once a day

Town Priest team - 1 (QT board)
Town Priest - ?? (I know who he is) [can't shoot but 15% chance of being killed]
hidden consequences to attacking the priest

Town Visitors/Neutral - 2
Sebb
Mustyfrog


Proposed strategy

OK guys it's time to put our thinking caps on.
The urgent priority is to lynch the two ORIGINAL bandits, the possible recruits can wait until after we kill those two.
Why?
1) They are easier to find. We know their starting roles were bandits, while the recruits could be anyone.
2) They can kill us! They are the only roles left who can assassinate. They also have multiple other actions available to them as they are the assumed Gang Leaders!

Once we kill the two of them, then we can hunt down the recruits who could be anyone, but if we have the numerical advantage we should be fine. That's why we need to find them soon. We also need to defend the same buildings so if they do try attack us we have a chance of killing them in the shootout.

The recruits only have limited actions, all they can do is vote and buy bullets as they are converted town folk. As far as Sebb and Musty go, we don't know how they fit into the picture but again let's deal with the original bandits first and then we can go after the possible recruits.

How do we go about finding the original bandits?
All points below relate to our ORIGINAL roles. So when I say someone is innocent, I mean at the start of the game. I'm fully aware they might have been recruited since then but while we're trying to find original bandits then they are considered innocents.
1) One big thing in our favour is that we have two groups of innocents in town; the 4 man Tavern team and the 3 people linked to the Priest.

Tavern team
Anyone in the Tavern team knows 4 innocent people (including themselves).

Sanctuary 'team'
The priest knows my real identity, and GCB's. GCB and I both know the Priest's identity. He has not targeted Gerrez or GCB so I trust that they are not bandits (we know Gerrez wasn't). Likewise he won't go for me so GCB knows I'm innocent.
A side note: the Priest can't be recruited so is 100% innocent. Likewise if I was recruited before last night he would have known, so I'm 100% innocent too. We can assume the bandits have both recruited already as they're in trouble so I should remain safe from recruitment. GCB could have been recruited after sanctuary but that's a discussion for another day.

I know we can't explicitly state our roles, but effectively we can rule out a bunch of people from being original bandits...
GCB and I are not on the same mini-team. If
A) one of us is part of the Tavern team, then we know of 6 original town people (4 tavern plus Priest and the other Sanctuary person), plus the 2 Neutrals, so we need to find 2 original bandits out of 4 people! If
B) neither of us is in the Tavern team, then we have 7 original town people (4 tavern plus Priest, GCB and Tennisball), plus the 2 Neutrals, so we need to find 2 original bandits out of 3 people!

Should be a lot easier if that happens

Strategy
Coming up, Obi Wan is following the same line of thought as me so thought I'd post this so long.
Essentially we need the Tavern team to identify who is town so we can find the bandits.

 

Clearly I'm not in the Tavern team (I tried to remain vague).

@Graham Carr's Binoculars can you confirm that you don't know any 100% original town innocents except for the Priest?

I'm pretty sure I know your role but just asking in case I got it wrong.

 

Here is a thought to spin around the table and see who it picks.

If as Sir T says we have a team of 4 plus priest and the best the Bandits have is a team of 3 why don't the team of 4 plus priest each declare to be Town and name the 4 others they know to be Town without saying roles?

If we have 5 declared and agreeing Town should that not make identifying the Bandits a whole lot easier?

Don't do it yet. I just wanted to see if this idea would float or sink.

 

@Nolberto's Salsa Inferno I know you've been posting this morning and have viewed thismthread. I had a Town read on you, but only a feeling. The field is narrowing, so who do you think is Town vs suspected bandits?

 

Yes Sebb, keep up. I have been constantly asking for people to come forward and state who theytrust. In particular if we get 4 consistent views then if really helps.We don't know whether they also know who the priestmis, maybe not.But at this stage 4 sayng the same narrows the field massively.
So yes, it helps massively if EVERYONE states their suspects. Only bandits would not want to do this right now.

 

Also, the whore has alreadyinfected 2 towies. You know who you are and whether you have potentially infected others, to die tonight etc. If ypu now have town reads on those peolle after infecting them 2 or 1 dys ago, then it's even more important to act now.

 

The tavern team cannot reveal itself is the problem

Go back and look at the posts

 

No , I'm not asking everyone to do this. I;m asking just that group of 5 to name themselves and 4 others, not necessarily who they suspect.. Therefore we should have 5 people saying the same which the Bandits can't match and therefore hopefully makes it easier to pick out the wrong uns

 

Not asking them to reveal roles just to state that they are Town plus 4 others they believe to be Town.

 

Town? I agree with Bod re townies

 

Which fcking posts though?We have over 3,500