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politicians have indeed made mistakes. Labour would too, as would the Lib Dem’s. The reason... all of this is new and there isn’t a manual on how to act. There isn’t any modern history to look at as to how to get out of this.

as for trust.. a lot of the guidance and policies and indeed policy changes seen recently are driven by the experts.. the scientists... the ones who spend their lives studying virology and human behaviour. So yes I trust them... as our approach to most of the pandemic is informed by them.


Don't you work in the pharmaceutical industry Albert's?
I might be wrong about this, I think I remember you saying.
 
He look... lockdown 4 is announced and loads of Londoners flee the capital to spread the virus further...

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ive been a Labour **** for 30 years mate. I just couldn’t vote for that wizened old communist tramp this last time around.

and if Pidcock stands again in Conaett I can’t vote for her as I find her vile.
He look... lockdown 4 is announced and loads of Londoners flee the capital to spread the virus further...

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****s should be shot
 
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This is correct.

Righto cheers, I won't probe you on what company you work for mate.


The following is a list of the 20 largest settlements reached between the United States Department of Justice and pharmaceutical companies from 1991 to 2012, ordered by the size of the total settlement. The settlement amount includes both the civil settlement and criminal fine. Glaxo's $3 billion settlement included the largest civil, False Claims Act settlement on record, and Pfizer’s $2.3 billion settlement including a record-breaking $1.3 billion criminal fine. Legal claims against the pharmaceutical industry have varied widely over the past two decades, including Medicare and Medicaid fraud, off-label promotion, and inadequate manufacturing practices. With respect to off-label promotion, specifically, a federal court recognized off-label promotion as a violation of the False Claims Act for the first time in Franklin v. Parke-Davis, leading to a $430 million settlement.
 
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Got to admit to being a touch miffed about only Christmas day being exempt. My wife (a doctor as I've mentioned before) is working a thirteen hour shift on Christmas day ( out of the house from 7:45am until 9:30pm) so we had arranged to do everything ( including all presents, etc) on Boxing Day. The kids have been great about it all ( thought we were going to have problems asking them to wait a day to open stuff but they're actually not bothered, they'd prefer to wait until mum is home). In the Liverpool region we've had a more extended lock down than pretty much the entire rest of the country but we're finally only tier 2... Oh well. It is what it is but we'll not be seeing any family at all this festive period and on Christmas day itself everything will just be "on hold". Tempted to do the kids beans on toast for dinner, just to really ram it home :)
 
Year Company Settlement Violation(s) Product(s) Laws allegedly violated
(if applicable)

2012 GlaxoSmithKline[1][6] $3 billion ($1B criminal, $2B civil) Criminal: Off-label promotion, failure to disclose safety data.
Civil: paying kickbacks to physicians, making false and misleading
statements concerning the safety of Avandia, reporting false best
prices and underpaying rebates owed under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program Avandia (not providing safety data), Wellbutrin,
Paxil (promotion of paediatric use), Advair,
Lamictal, Zofran,
Imitrex, Lotronex,
Flovent, Valtrex; False Claims Act/FDCA
2009 Pfizer[2] $2.3 billion Off-label promotion/kickbacks Bextra/Geodon/
Zyvox/Lyrica False Claims Act/FDCA
2013 Johnson & Johnson[7] $2.2 billion Off-label promotion/kickbacks Risperdal/Invega/
Nesiritide False Claims Act/FDCA
2012 Abbott Laboratories[8] $1.5 billion Off-label promotion Depakote False Claims Act/FDCA
2009 Eli Lilly[9] $1.4 billion Off-label promotion Zyprexa False Claims Act/FDCA
2001 TAP Pharmaceutical Products[10] $875 million Medicare fraud/kickbacks Lupron False Claims Act/
Prescription Drug Marketing Act
2012 Amgen[11] $762 million Off-label promotion/kickbacks Aranesp False Claims Act/FDCA
2010 GlaxoSmithKline[12] $750 million Poor manufacturing practices Kytril/Bactroban/
Paxil CR/Avandamet False Claims Act/FDCA
2005 Serono[13] $704 million Off-label promotion/
kickbacks/monopoly practices Serostim False Claims Act
2008 Merck[14] $650 million Medicare fraud/kickbacks Zocor/Vioxx/Pepsid False Claims Act/
Medicaid Rebate Statute
2007 Purdue Pharma[15] $601 million Off-label promotion Oxycontin False Claims Act
2010 Allergan[16] $600 million Off-label promotion Botox False Claims Act/FDCA
2010 AstraZeneca[17] $520 million Off-label promotion/kickbacks Seroquel False Claims Act
2007 Bristol-Myers Squibb[18] $515 million Off-label promotion/
kickbacks/Medicare fraud Abilify/Serzone False Claims Act/FDCA
2002 Schering-Plough[19] $500 million Poor manufacturing practices Claritin FDA Current
Good Manufacturing Practices
2006 Mylan[20] $465 million Misclassification under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program EpiPen (epinephrine) False Claims Act
2006 Schering-Plough[21] $435 million Off-label promotion/
kickbacks/Medicare fraud Temodar/ Intron A/K-Dur/
Claritin RediTabs False Claims Act/FDCA
2004[22] Pfizer $430 million Off-label promotion Neurontin False Claims Act/FDCA
2008 Cephalon[23] $425 million Off-label promotion[23] Actiq/Gabitril/Provigil False Claims Act/FDCA
2010 Novartis[24] $423 million Off-label promotion/kickbacks Trileptal False Claims Act/FDCA
2003 AstraZeneca[25] $355 million Medicare fraud Zoladex Prescription Drug Marketing Act
2004 Schering-Plough[26] $345 million Medicare fraud/kickbacks Claritin False Claims Act/
Anti-Kickback Statute
 
Well yes lots of people want that, some of us are following the rules though. Everyone interpreting them however they wish and looking after their own interests is probably the single biggest factor which has led to this situation.

haslam, I always like your post, but I've got a different opinion mate.

Did you watch that clip of the little lass getting throwen off an airplane?

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You know what upset me the most, the other passengers reaction to that little girl being thrown off that flight... sitting there in their ****ing masks!!! and allowing it to happen, in this day and age...
just ****ing watch as that little girl walks down the aisle, unawares as to what's going on...

Not one of them got up and said, what the hell is happing here...

Yes yes, look away you ****ing cowards.
 
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Righto cheers, I won't probe you on what company you work for mate.


The following is a list of the 20 largest settlements reached between the United States Department of Justice and pharmaceutical companies from 1991 to 2012, ordered by the size of the total settlement. The settlement amount includes both the civil settlement and criminal fine. Glaxo's $3 billion settlement included the largest civil, False Claims Act settlement on record, and Pfizer’s $2.3 billion settlement including a record-breaking $1.3 billion criminal fine. Legal claims against the pharmaceutical industry have varied widely over the past two decades, including Medicare and Medicaid fraud, off-label promotion, and inadequate manufacturing practices. With respect to off-label promotion, specifically, a federal court recognized off-label promotion as a violation of the False Claims Act for the first time in Franklin v. Parke-Davis, leading to a $430 million settlement.

havent a clue what all that is about mate you will have to help me.
 
Well yes lots of people want that, some of us are following the rules though. Everyone interpreting them however they wish and looking after their own interests is probably the single biggest factor which has led to this situation.

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