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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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  1. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

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    Don’t forget, Starmer wanted a longer lockdown.
     
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    Not surprised staying were he was ( apparently )
     
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    Where's Pierrepoint when you need him? :emoticon-0138-think


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    Not so long ago, there were ashtrays on all McDonalds tables.
     
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  5. Cityzen

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    What a stupid reply. If you don’t have anything pertinent to say why not keep quiet? Why the incessant arguing?
     
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    I might have a sandwich later. But not cheese.
     
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  7. Cityzen

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    Still not got over your ill informed nonsense post about the people who threw the soup over the Van Gogh the other day?
     
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    Might have said King C**t, till Queer Stalin entered the picture.
     
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  9. Cityzen

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    His lad’s GCSEs must take longer than other schools because he was still there weeks later.
    Not that he was trying to deceive anybody when he was prattling on about staying at home whilst he wasn’t. I am sure all the family photos that just happened to be behind belonged to his mate and weren’t put there by Starmergeddon,
     
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  10. Ric Glasgow

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    Stick some Hostage,(sorry Sausage) on it...
     
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  11. TwoWrights

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    Grilled or barbecued? :emoticon-0138-think


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  12. Ric Glasgow

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    Out of date preferably.Might keep the argumentative twat on the lavvy all day,instead of disrupting threads:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Oh sorry, you're talking about sausages, whereas ... :emoticon-0138-think


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    Hmmm


    Moderna under fire after children offered cash to test Covid vaccine
    Company targeted 12 to 18 year-olds through WhatsApp with payments of £1,500

    Sarah KnaptonScience Editor
    02 October 2024 2:14pm
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    Moderna has been rebuked by regulators after offering children cash to test the Covid vaccine.

    The pharmaceutical company was ordered to pay £14,000 after it emerged that a representative had sent a WhatsApp message offering £1,500 to children to take part in Covid booster trials.

    The UK Prescription Medicines Code of Practice Authority (PMCPA) ruled that the offer amounted to “inappropriate financial inducement” and found the company had brought “discredit upon the pharmaceutical industry”.

    The offer was made by a paediatrician from an unnamed NHS trust, inviting those aged between 12 and 18 years old to enrol in the NextCove trial, which was examining the efficacy of Moderna’s booster jab.

    The inducement was made even though a research ethics committee had warned about the “large amount of money” that Moderna was offering participants, and voiced concern it was “much higher than would be considered a reasonable reimbursement”.

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    Moderna later amended the offer to just £185, but despite the change, at least one trial centre carried on offering the original sum.

    Under The Medicines for Human Use (Clinical Trials) Regulations it is prohibited for incentives or financial inducements to be given to children or their parents.

    Too little too late
    In a statement, the PMCPA ruled: “The panel noted that the financial incentive offered within the unapproved WhatsApp message was never paid but considered that it might have encouraged participants to apply to take part.

    “The panel considered that the unique circumstances of the Covid-19 pandemic, and the particular circumstances of this trial, which involved the recruitment of children, meant that Moderna should have been especially cautious.

    “On balance, the panel considered that this brought discredit upon and reduced confidence in the pharmaceutical industry.”

    Moderna must provide a written undertaking that the practice will “cease forthwith” and pay for administrative costs.

    However, critics said that the sanction was too small to be effective.

    Esther McVey MP, formerly of the APPG on Covid-19 vaccine damage said: “A charge of £14,000 to a company that enjoyed a total revenue of $6.8 billion in 2023 is hardly likely to make them think twice before breaking the rules again.

    “Not only are the charges too small but when they come, they come too late. There is a major backlog in handling these kinds of complaints, with a recent case against Moderna taking the PMCPA 18 months to consider.

    “The system is clearly broken and failing to keep patients safe from misleading information and advertising about medicines. The public’s trust in healthcare authorities will only continue to be damaged unless meaningful action is taken.”

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    Esther McVey criticised the amount Moderna was fined as being too small for a company with such a large financial turnoverHEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY FOR THE TELEGRAPH
    The company was also found in breach of the code for the way it had promoted its Spikevax Covid vaccine at the European Congress of Clinical Microbiology and Infectious Diseases in April 2022.

    Although the session was supposed to be a round-up of how mRNA technologies helped during pandemics, the PMCPA found it had been used to promote its own vaccine.

    “The panel noted that only four of the 23 slides, including the title slide, made no direct reference to Spikevax; the panel was therefore concerned that Moderna had submitted that the presentation was not promotional.

    “In the panel’s view, the presentation could not be seen as anything other than promotion of Spikevax,” the PMCPA said.

    The presentation also included off-label data.

    Molly Kingsley, from the campaign group Us For Them said: “There’s been a long string of these decisions against Moderna, Pfizer, AstraZeneca and GSK for similar serious contraventions, and yet there have been no real world consequences for any of these groups.

    “It’s incredible that the PMCPA, as an industry self-regulatory body, has no powers to impose fines or other meaningful penalties for serious breaches of its rules.

    “Self-regulation is a privilege that the pharma industry is arrogantly exploiting to the detriment of us all.”

    Since 2019, AstraZeneca, Pfizer and GSK have all been rebuked by the PMCPA for misleading the public about the efficacy of their vaccines.

    Moderna was approached for comment.
     
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  16. Cityzen

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    So, when one of their own broke covid lockdown rules it was the worst of tabloid journalism and she should have ignored it and rode out the storm.

    England’s medical chief ‘backed Scottish doctor who broke lockdown rules’
    Sir Chris Whitty was one of a group of senior figures who lamented loss of Catherine Calderwood
    27 October 2024 6:01pm GMT
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    27 October 2024 6:01pm GMT

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    Dr Catherine Calderwood (right) ignored her own advice to visit her second home in Fife Credit: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty
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    27 October 2024 6:01pm GMT

    Sir Chris Whitty appeared to support a Scottish doctor amid the media report of her breaching Covid rules at the height of lockdown, it has emerged.

    England’s chief medical officer said he agreed with comments from his counterpart in Wales that the way Dr Catherine Calderwood’s rule-breaking by visiting her second home was exposed was the “worst of tabloid journalism”.

    The Scottish chief medical officer, who would resign for her failure to follow the rules, also appeared to receive support from Dame Jenny Harries, now chief executive of the UK Health Security Agency.

    Dr Calderwood, who was close to Nicola Sturgeon, resigned in disgrace in April 2020 for making two trips to her second home in Fife, in contravention of strict travel rules that she urged the public to follow.

    Texts in a WhatsApp group between the UK chief medical officers show that Dr Calderwood texted on April 5, the morning after the story broke, to admit an “error of judgment”.

    She later added: “I will try to ride it out.”

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    Sir Chris Whitty remains England’s chief medical officer Credit: Marcin Nowak/LNP
    Sir Chris, who remains England’s chief medical officer, said he agreed with a message from Sir Frank Atherton, the Welsh chief medical officer, who attacked a story in The Sun revealing Dr Calderwood’s rule-breaking.

    Sir Jonathan Van Tam then weighed in, telling Dr Calderwood she was “doing a fantastic job”.

    Sir Michael McBride, Northern Ireland’s chief medical officer, also urged Dr Calderwood to “ignore” the reports.

    Dame Jenny, deputy chief medical officer for England during the pandemic, then offered support, saying she was preparing “a huge positive professional shout-out”.

    Dr Calderwood resigned later that day following an excruciating press briefing alongside Ms Sturgeon in which she struggled to defend her actions.

    Newly released texts, pieced together by The Scottish Sun with evidence handed to the UK Covid Inquiry, show Dr Calderwood texted colleagues hours before she announced her resignation admitting “I may not manage to survive this, I’m afraid”.

    Aamer Anwar, lead solicitor for the Scottish Covid Bereaved group, said the UK’s most senior medical officers had displayed “obscene hypocrisy” by backing Dr Calderwood’s wish to “ride out” the scandal.

    He said: “While ordinary mortals faced prosecution, couldn’t attend funerals, or were denied the right to be with loved ones taking their final breaths, time and time again, individuals like Dr Calderwood have been exposed for their shameful arrogance and double standards.

    “Public trust has been so eroded by the actions of some of our officials and politicians that it’s difficult to comprehend ordinary people obeying rules in an inevitable future pandemic.”

    Police warning
    Dr Calderwood, who lived in Edinburgh, was photographed near her second home Earlsferry, Fife, while the public was being urged to “stay home”. She received a police warning for her actions.

    At the time, the UK was under strict emergency lockdown laws banning people from going out without a “reasonable excuse”.

    All of those in the CMOs group, apart from Dr Calderwood, were later awarded a knighthood or damehood.

    Dr Calderwood is currently national clinical director at Scotland’s Golden Jubilee National Hospital in Clydebank and has been appointed an academic at the University of Strathclyde.

    She did not give evidence at the UK Covid Inquiry’s Scotland phase this year after being excused due to ill health.

    A Scottish government spokesman said: “It would be inappropriate to comment on the detail of evidence being considered by the UK Covid-19 Inquiry.”

    The UK Government’s Department for Health and Social Care declined to comment.
     
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