Won the FA Cup in 1987. Beat Spurs 3-2 in extra time. It's an excellent game, if you haven't seen it, you should. They beat Leeds 3-2 in the Semi-final too, at Hillsborough I think. Another decent game.
Alright then, as the official tenants of the stadium they have the right to have unwelcome people removed. I don't agree with them doing it, but to start suggesting it's a breach of free speech is all bollocks.
Wouldn't that only be true if there was some specific wording on the ticket? As long as you've paid and aren't comitting anything under Section 5, I don't see they've any legal basis to assault members of the public.
I said in the previous post that the issue would be about refunding ticket money when they ejected them, not with freedom of speech.
I'm not sure on what basis they operating at Coventry, but I saw that at Blackburn they were seizing any 'Kean Out' banners from fans as they entered the stadium, on the grounds of health and safety(claiming that they caused a risk, as the 'Kean Out' mob might start fighting with the 'Kean In' mob). I'm not sure they could apply the same logic at Coventry, as far as I am aware, there is no 'SISU In' mob.
Apparently so, there was a backlash against the campaigners when they booed Yakubu, after he'd scored four goals.
I thought there needs to be proper grounds to remove you from the ground before you can be physically removed or that's assault? They'd be hard pushed to win a claim against someone showing a peaceful freedom of expression in a football stadium. The Police certainly have no Authority to get involved in such things.
It's the police involvement that bother me, they're acting beyond the law, in fact, I'm going to ask West Midlands OB to justify their actions. I love a campaign.
Been to the Ricoh twice - its the most soulless new stadium of the lot - and I've been to them all. Capacity too big for the fan base and a ridiculously high roof that follows the stadium around from the high sided arena 'end'. As a result rubbish acoutics. Also, unlike the KC, seemingly on the edge of town with no pubs within easy walking distance and therefore you are captive of that on offer on their concourse - so much for out of town stadia.
If you're asked to leave private property and refuse to then reasonable force can be used, it effectively becomes trespass and/or a breach of the peace in itself so the police would be allowed to get involved. The stadium, even if publically owned is privately rented so when officials/employees for the occupiers ask you to leave it falls into that. You can look at breach of contract if you're not given a refund on your ticket, but that would all depend on whether one of the stadium rules relates to following instructions given by stewards and the police. To dispute it if that rule existed you'd need to show that the request to stop you protesting was illegal, and it isn't. It doesn't deny freedom of speech, they're not stopping people protesting full stop like Syria, they're simply saying that if you don't like us and want to complain about us you can get off our land first.
I don't believe you can just be asked to leave without reasonable cause, and expressing an opinion politely simply isn't one. It's what keeps squatters in houses and lets the gypsies and Irish in pubs. So there is no offence for the Police to get involved in. As there is no offence, any contact is running the risk of an assault charge. Being assaulted for expressing an opinion sits squarely in the restriction to freedom of speech and expression.
Yep, twas ever thus. One person has the right to offer a reasoned criticism of the board if that's their considered opinion, another person has the right to call that same person an attention seeking tit, if that's their considered opinion.
If it's a **** board like theirs, or our previous one then yes, if the board consists of local businessmen who bought the club with complete selflessness and with the intention of 'giving something back to the city' then no.
Rule of stadium = follow instructions given by stewards Failure to follow stewards instructions = breach of terms of entry Breach of terms of entry = fair reason to be asked to leave the premises Failure to leave premises after fair request = right to use reasonable force EDIT: Of course if you want to test your theory you should go to a nightclub this weekend and start protesting about the owners having done a bad job since they acquired it, ignore staff requests to stop and then refuse to leave when they ask you to.
Instructions have to be reasonable and justifiable. For the banners, something like a fire or other safety hazard , restricting views or if the wording is offensive. All are open to challenge, especially when a club has other banners. None permit physical assault or even arrest. The night club's a very different scenario as the whole choice, context and layout is different. Few night clubs are viewed as being a significant part of the local community for a start. You're never going to convince me it's acceptable for someone to be physically assaulted for expressing their considered opinion in a reasonable manner. That flies in the face of a free society. I'm not going to convince you you're wrong, so best let this ping pong rest.
