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Off Topic Council plans to fill in remains of historic Beverley Gate in Hull opposed

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  1. Plum

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    As much as those roadworks piss me off if you're doing a long journey the extra time it takes up is 10 minutes max so it's not too bad. I'd be less happy if I had to use the stretch daily for short runs though.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    It's way more than 10 minutes, as of 22nd September this year, 100 miles of the M1 were undergoing roadworks and had 50mph limits in place, they also shut the M1 completely every night and make you drive miles out the way through diversions. They decided to lift all roadworks on motorways over Christmas last year, there were 400 miles of roadworks in place that were temporarily suspended.

    The government recently announced that they were changing the law to limit roadworks to a standard maximum of 2 miles (with special applications having to be made for 5 mile roadworks in exceptional circumstances), I can't believe it's taken so long to do such an obvious thing,
     
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  3. Plum

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    I was only talking about that particular set of roadworks. Sure its more if you're doing the full stretch.
     
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  4. DMD

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    To be fair, the chances of averaging 70mph for that hundred miles was pretty slim, hence the road works. The difference between 70mph and 50mph over the full stretch is less than 20 minutes. Given 70 wouldn't have been the average, and most tweak over the 50, 15 min is probably about it.
     
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  5. GLP

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    There's the 20 mile stretch from the M18 to J28 then in Northamptonshire there's an even longer stretch of 50mph limits with about 25 miles of roadworks. Until April I had to do that chuffing route every fortnight.

    The problem isn't so much the average speed but the break downs and accidents within the roadworks, at one stage after 2-3 years of this I'd calculated I'd been sat in traffic jams for over 24 hours - it's not for me.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    When there's a breakdown or fire you can easily get stuck there for a couple of hours, I got stuck for three hours in the one approaching the M18 a couple of months back.
     
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    The A1 at Catterick/Leeming Bar and Chester-Le-Street have been a bucket of laughs today!
     
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    The square will be all the better for it.

    They really serve no purpose.
     
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  9. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    At one time, they must have had iron railings (WW2?) and you could see the lead sealings that remained.
    I guess the only factor is that inside the wall, at the old market end, the floor of the churchyard is gravestones. I don't know whether it was/is actually a graveyard.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    New 'Big Screen' unveiled in Hull city centre

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    BIG screen images have returned to Hull city centre thanks to businessman Malcolm Scott.

    The plug was famously pulled on the city council's big screen overlooking Queen Victoria Square in 2009.

    Now Mr Scott has unveiled his own version on the side of an office block above his Kardomah94 venue in Alfred Gelder Street.

    Covering the size of six motorway billboards, the screen is illuminated by two powerful projectors housed across the road in the Guildhall.

    It will feature an ever-changing mix of locally produced short films music videos, documentaries, animation and public information backed by advertising.

    Mr Scott said: "We secured planning approval for the screen about a year ago, but we have only recently got all the technicalities sorted out to get it up and running.

    "The building itself is a bit bland so it provides a good blank canvas for us to work on.

    "Obviously it works better at night because the darker it gets the better it looks."

    He said the idea behind the screen was to showcase top regional creative talent.

    "The screen is a place for having fun, celebrating the film-making talent of the region, the creativity of regional businesses and shouting about what's important to families, businesses and services."

    Launched this week, the screen is currently featuring four 30-second promotional videos for The Deep.

    The city's top visitor attraction is one of six initial local sponsors of the screen, which also has the support of the city council through the use of the Guildhall.

    Mr Scott said he was keen to hear from anyone in the area with ideas on potential creative content for the screen.

    Advertising slots will also be geared towards local firms.

    "We want regional companies and city centre businesses to promote their offer. In doing so, they will also celebrate their involvement in the cultural economy," he added.

    The council's big screen was installed in 2004 after it was bought by the authority for £650,000.

    An initial £45,000 sponsorship deal with a group of local companies and organisations ran out in 2007.

    Two years later the council's then Liberal Democrat-led administration pulled the plug.

    Old screen in storage

    The city council's unused big screen is still believed to be in storage six years after being dismantled.

    It was removed when the council decided against renewing a contract with the BBC and electrical giants Philips.

    Council leader Steve Brady recently told a full council meeting there were no immediate plans to switch it back on again.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/New-...tory-27941908-detail/story.html#ixzz3nyvyTlrY
     
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    The Purple Pig has done one.
     
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    If the council want to fill some holes in they should start by filling in those stinking public toilets in Queen Victoria Square under the statue or buy some bleach. They are disgraceful.
     
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    They're getting a complete refurb as part of the City of Culture works.
     
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    Details of buildings to be demolished for the new venue...

    8.3.1 The proposed scheme is proposing the complete demolition of the majority of the buildings within the application boundary. This will lead to the total loss of the following buildings:
    • 15-19 Osborne Street – Earnest W. Steele & Co Ltd;
    • 12-18 Waterhouse Lane and 1-7 Osborne Street – Quay House;
    • The Music Man Public House – formerly the Victoria Tavern;
    • 2-4 Roper Street - The Office’ Private Club;
    • 8 Roper Street;
    • 26-29 Waterhouse Lane and 1-3 Roper Street – Pine Warehouse and Hostel;
    • The Hull Boys Club, Roper Street; and,
    • The Ambulance Station.
    8.3.2 Braves Hall will be retained throughout the development of the site. The architectural and historic interest of the building will remain unaltered; however, its setting will change. It is considered that there will be heritage benefits as a result of the proposals potentially leading to a positive future for the building.
    8.4 Setting of listed buildings adjacent to the site
    8.4.1 The proposed development will change the way in which the surrounding of the listed buildings are experienced. The setting of these buildings has been significantly and detrimentally altered in the past. This, arguably, has contributed to their lack of use as commercial buildings. The proposed building has been suitably sited with sufficient space between it and the listed buildings. The introduction of the main plaza has provided breathing space for the listed buildings to allow them to become orientation points through to the new development. Castle Chambers will benefit from becoming a gateway building into the newly configured area. Whilst the proposed development will lead to a loss of historic buildings that respond and create a strong group value and historic streetscape the regeneration of the area should be seen as a benefit. The proposals are likely to bring pedestrian activity and footfall to the area that has suffered from neglect. In terms of the planning balance there is a compelling suggestion that re-energising the area will be a catalyst bring heritage benefits to the listed buildings by way of appropriate repair and new uses in the future.
     
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  15. Anal Frank Fingers

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    I calculate that assuming 70 and 50mph it would be 34 mins for 100 miles.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    It's academic, the problem isn't the slight delay from having to go a bit slower, it's the fact that there's currently 100 miles of the M1 with no hard shoulder and any breakdown/crash can delay you for hours.
     
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  17. GLP

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    Plus you're rarely actually doing 50mph. You set your speedo at '50mph' and have a GPS in the car with you, you'll probably find you are actually doing approx 46mph (Though that will vary from one car manufacturer to another).

    You then have the serial lane hoggers who will remain in a lane blocking faster traffic because they haven't returned to the middle/slow lane - this is perhaps the biggest issue on UK roads. Frankly roads don't need widening, drivers just need to use them correctly. We are by far the worst country I have driven in for lane hogging. So if you're a lane hogger and you're reading this - move the **** over!
     
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  18. balkan tiger

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    Middle lane hoggers that create a rolling road block.

    I travel a fair bit in Germany and Austria and now see this there too. In the old days when the motorways were only 2 lanes people moved out, passed and got back in the near side lane pretty damn quick as there was always someone coming up behind going fast. I seems as though the traffic flow has actually got worse with more lanes. Is there a bit of the M1 with 4 lanes?
     
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  19. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Last time I was coming home from Birmingham , about 4.15pm hit the M1 roadworks, average speed dropped to 3mph.....a total journey normally taking 1hr 50 minutes then took 3 hours 20 minutes as the M1 became a car park, no accidents....simply junctions, services & HGV's......so considerably more than a 10-20 minute journey extension
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    It barely takes anything for them to clog up, Charlton away took me almost five hours each way.
     
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