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Off Topic Council plans to fill in remains of historic Beverley Gate in Hull opposed

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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    The Council announced last August that Beverley Gate was going to be glazed and lit, they then announced this August that they'd gone off the idea as the glass got scratched when people walked on it and they were going to fill it in instead. If they didn't want people to start kicking up a fuss, they'd have been better off just asking for alternative ideas in the first place.

    Personally, I think glazing it, but not letting people walk on it (while obviously explaining exactly what it is and why it's significant) would please most and would avoid the potential issues mentioned. Ideally, you'd build a mock up of the original tower, while still being able to view the original foundations beneath, but I suspect that wouldn't be financially viable.
     
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    Did the Council announce it, or was it a Councillor in the HDM?
     
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    NorthFerribyTiger Well-Known Member

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    Without the past there can be no future !!

    Far too much of the history of Hull has been wiped off the map, for that reason we must do what we can to retain the remainder
     
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    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    It was attributed in the HDM to someone called Garry Taylor, who is apparently the City Council's Major Projects Manager.
     
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    Ah.
     
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    I'm all for preserving history and I'm greatly saddened by much that the city has needlessly lost.

    On this issue, I'm sure we can easily come up with a plan to incorporate the gates remains into the development.

    But you do get certain elements that seems more interested in the past than looking to the future. And let's remember that Hull prospered very nicely whilst the remains of this gate were buried under it.
     
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    OK here’s an idea to ponder. The present amphitheatre should be reduced and remodeled as a sunken garden in the shape of a ships ‘hull’ below the waterline running alongside the remains, with the Beverley Gate encased in glass set at a modern 45 degree angle which can’t be walked on. Could the effect of peering at the remains over the side of a ship be achieved? Thus maritime themes, new seating, sculptures and civil war history could all be incorporated together around the new feature?
     
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    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    A simple way to glaze over something without people walking on it (this is over some Roman ruins in Malaga)...

    please log in to view this image
     
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    The mock-up Beverley Gate built at the end of Whitefriargate for the royal visit in 1903...

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    I quite like this. They could do something similar on the anniversary.
     
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    Nah, too naff. I'd like the ruins covered in a glass pyramid though like the picture in Malaga, with a slightly sunken garden representing a ship sailing alongside it between Princes Dock and Queens Dock where the Old Town moat would have been originally linking the history together with sculptured railings rising up at both ends representing Larkins Hull poem 'Here' engraved with the line 'pastoral of ships up streets'.
     
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    Hardly a shock, given it was never really on the cards to be totally filled in anyway.
     
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    He (Bayes) outlines the significance and historical importance of Beverleygate, so why on earth would they even have considered filling it in as an option in the first place? The mind really does boggle at how Hull City council operates.
     
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    They have to consider all options. All local authorities do in such cases. It doesn't mean they're realistic or liable to be carried out.
     
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    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    That being the case, it makes you wonder why the Council didn't simply state that the Council representative who spoke to the HDM had got it wrong, saving thousands of people from having to sign a petition, or people marching on Beverley Gate putting up badly designed banners.
     
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    You do work for the council don't you?
     
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    If people choose to light the torches and wave pitchforks, that's their prerogative. The Council couldn't say that they would or wouldn't be filling it in until they'd considered all the options.

    The HDM will do what the HDM does.
     
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    Did the origional gate have a welcome sign.

    Or a **** off you're coming in sign.
     
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    Because I take the time to look behind the splash in the HDM? It doesn't take any inside knowledge to look beyond the blurb. It's what most people that have had any dealings with the local media do.

    It's far more constructive to act on what's actually been discussed rather than some hype.
     
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