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[aberdude]

As per usual you seem to be missing the point, so I will post what I posted elsewhere, to save the confusion, as I find it hilarious that you are now licking Cummings ringpiece, the very person at the heart of the government you supposedly hate...

How I see it is Cummings is doing nothing more than giving an 'opinion' an opinion that most the British public never ever trusted previously. I'm sure we all remember the cringeworthy moment, when he sat before the British Media, brazenly explaining his exploits surrounding Barnard.

He's not actually told anyone anything, that people had not already presumed previously, unless of course they had their heads buried in the sand. The government got it wrong, we know that. Boris got it wrong, we know that, the Health Secretary is a useless incompetent shhite, we know that.

The government fell short on every level, apart from vaccines, we know that. It's like a confessed murderer, grassing on all his cell mates while awaiting trial, trying to protect himself from being butt fooked.

If Boris was there it would just add bluster to the dribble that's already been added to great effect by Cummings. In short, he's atttempting to save himself from corporate mansluaghter, although I don't know if his position at the time, would be accountable under any such legal case at a later date.

Fk Cummings im only interested in the dirt......I said at time of his eye's testing he was a scummy fkr, my thoughts haven't changed.

But brb misses the point as per

 

[Edelman]

That’s undeniable. He culled anyone within their ranks who offered any form of challenge.

He culled reasonable lifelong Tory members who would have been a lot better help through this past year or so .
Whichever side you sit on people had respect for the likes of Jenneth Clarke

 

[aberdude]

Fair enough. He's not told me anything I didn't already know, he's merely confirmed it. What he said wouldn't make me change the way I vote either, because in my eyes, they are all as bad has one another, and at the moment, it's a feeding frenzy, like watching starlings coming down to a fat ball.

Lol...poor boris

 

[Edelman]

Fk Cummings im only interested in the dirt......I said at time of his eye's testing he was a scummy fkr, my thoughts haven't changed.

But brb misses the point as per

 

[brb]

they have no grounds for that though .

Which means he can say whatever he wants. He's squealing like a pig on primetime tv lapping up the attention, yet he will not allow anyone full access to his phone - why not, what's he got to hide, as I said earlier, it's like a murderer squealing on his cell mates. Wanting to get his version of events out first, without any challenge. It's like watching a disgruntled ex employee, going to town because he lost his job, after previously being party to killing hundreds of thousands of people, along with Boris and Hancock, but it's nothing to do with me guv, honest.

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[Edelman]

Which means he can say whatever he wants. He's squealing like a pig on primetime tv lapping up the attention, yet he will not allow anyone full access to his phone - why not, what's he got to hide, as I said earlier, it's like a murderer squealing on his cell mates. Wanting to get his version of events out first, without any challenge. It's like watching a disgruntled ex employee, going to town because he lost his job, after previously being party to killing hundreds of thousands of people, along with Boris and Hancock, but it's nothing to do with me guv, honest.

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He also added that he himself wasnt and shouldnt have been in That job and that theres a lot better qualified people that should have been .
Classic cronyism

 

[aberdude]

He also added that he himself wasnt and shouldnt have been in That job and that theres a lot better qualified people that should have been .
Classic cronyism

He and Boris had to much power so he's saying.......no **** sherlock........the voting public didn't see.

No shock there

 

[brb]

He also added that he himself wasnt and shouldnt have been in That job and that theres a lot better qualified people that should have been .
Classic cronyism

Yup, because he is trying to distance himself through self blame. He's had time away from Downing St to think this through, and those thoughts came to the conclusion I need to save my arse in all this fiasco.

So I'm going to drop Boris and Hancock in it, and get my say in first.

I'm also not forgetting his driving to test his eyesight exploits, the guy is an out and out liar. He's turned informer. He was challenged on something he said a little while ago, his response 'it was an assumption' - so as I said couple of pages back, it's his 'opinion' one to which he will not allow free access to his phone.

 

[brb]

Cummings was picked up on his 'narrative.' Their wording not mine.

You said you moved out of London, due to security reasons, after threats to you and your family.

So why did you move them back?

Didn't come clean at the time. She (his partner) said we are coming back to London with you. as she was worried about him.

He says we were trapped not being able to tell the whole story, why? No one would have disbelieved that, and would have more likely understood the reasons you went to Barnard.

Why's it taken until today, to say that and apologise?

Because the guy is a fooking liar.

 

[Edelman]

Cummings was picked up on his 'narrative.' Their wording not mine.

You said you moved out of London, due to security reasons, after threats to you and your family.

So why did you move them back?

Didn't come clean at the time. She (his partner) said we are coming back to London with you. as she was worried about him.

He says we were trapped not being able to tell the whole story, why? No one would have disbelieved that, and would have more likely understood the reasons you went to Barnard.

Why's it taken until today, to say that and apologise?

Because the guy is a fooking liar.

Fitted in well then didnt he ?

 

[brb]

Fitted in well then didnt he ?

I've not suggested otherwise.

I can remember when he had protests outside his family home, so it wasn't anything new, that his family was under obvious threat, yet he tells the narrative now, as questioned by the people on the commitee, why now?

If he'd given the narrative that his family was at threat, hence why he went to Barnard, people would have understood that. So why now, because he's had chance to rehearse his script. And it's the psychology of offering myself as a sacrifice, to make the story fit against everyone else.

Jeremy Hunt is clearly sceptical of what Cummings is saying, and unconvinced by this new narrative.

 

[Solid Air]

I've not suggested otherwise.

I can remember when he had protests outside his family home, so it wasn't anything new, that his family was under obvious threat, yet he tells the narrative now, as questioned by the people on the commitee, why now?

If he'd given the narrative that his family was at threat, hence why he went to Barnard, people would have understood that. So why now, because he's had chance to rehearse his script. And it's the psychology of offering myself as a sacrifice, to make the story fit against everyone else.

Jeremy Hunt is clearly sceptical of what Cummings is saying, and unconvinced by this new narrative.

I've now seen that bit and he just kept digging and digging

 

[Treble]

I think ppl have forgotten why Cummings has come out with this ****storm. It's not because he's a disgruntled employee (although that may play some part in his vitriol now), it's because Boris and Downing Street put it out to the press that Cummings had leaked the story of the text messages between Bojo and Dyson.

A day later Cummings affronted by what he considered underhand lies to try and divert the attention away from the real story, went full "woman scorned" and started to openly spill the beans on everything. That's what's happened here and Boris and Downing Street only have themselves to blame.

 

[Tobes]

I think ppl have forgotten why Cummings has come out with this ****storm. It's not because he's a disgruntled employee (although that may play some part in his vitriol now), it's because Boris and Downing Street put it out to the press that Cummings had leaked the story of the text messages between Bojo and Dyson.

A day later Cummings affronted by what he considered underhand lies to try and divert the attention away from the real story, went full "woman scorned" and started to openly spill the beans on everything. That's what's happened here and Boris and Downing Street only have themselves to blame.

It’ll be spun into ‘pick your liar’ and they’ll all fall into line.

The actual substance (backed with plenty of documented proof it seems) with disappear into the ether with ‘he tried his best, and vaccines though’.

 

[Treble]

It’ll be spun into ‘pick your liar’ and they’ll all fall into line.

The actual substance (backed with plenty of documented proof it seems) with disappear into the ether with ‘he tried his best, and vaccines though’.

Vaccines, the delivery of which (and its success) is because it was one of the few things in this pandemic which was handed over to people who actually knew something about it (rather than rich cronies) i.e. the NHS. Go figure.

 

[Tobes]

Vaccines, the delivery of which (and its success) is because it was one of the few things in this pandemic which was handed over to people who actually knew something about it (rather than rich cronies) i.e. the NHS. Go figure.

Cummings is many things, but he’s not completely stupid, he’ll have kept his receipts.....

So Johnson & Co are in a spot here, if they go for the blind denials, I’d fully expect Cummings to finish them with his receipts. So my money is on, bluster, deflection, and a cart load of dead cat stories in the next few days. Expect to see Patel staring at dinghies in the channel or something.

 

[Treble]

Cummings is many things, but he’s not completely stupid, he’ll have kept his receipts.....

So Johnson & Co are in a spot here, if they go for the blind denials, I’d fully expect Cummings to finish them with his receipts. So my money is on, bluster, deflection, and a cart load of dead cat stories in the next few days. Expect to see Patel staring at dinghies in the channel or something.

Ultimately Tobes it'll lead to nothing in real terms because even after 127,000 dead, the masses who support him and the incompetents currently in the Cabinet, will follow them blindly. The country's still far too divided and polarised to hold them to account. And tbf the opposition is weak.

 

[Tobes]

Ultimately Tobes it'll lead to nothing in real terms because even after 127,000 dead, the masses who support him and the incompetents currently in the Cabinet, will follow them blindly. The country's still far too divided and polarised to hold them to account. And tbf the opposition is weak.

This goes beyond the ballot box and populism imo, there’s serious allegations of potential criminal levels of incompetence here.

It should be noted that Hancock will be giving his evidence in a fortnight, he’s going to have a few sleepless nights between now and then I’d wager.

 

[BobbyD]

Hancock will be sacrificed then everyone will get back to the trough.

This countries to broken for anyone to care or do anything.

 

[PINKIE]

The Cabinet was filled with yes people not with ones that had the ability and competence to undertake their duties

This

Boris surrounded himself with Brexit sycophants after Theresa May was ousted so that he could 'get brexit done' without any real scrutiny. Like you say 'yes men' who wouldn't challenge him. From the evidence of the last 18 months of their Govt, they are **** at their jobs. As confirmed by Cummings:

"Mr Johnson had told him he liked to be surrounded by "chaos" in Downing Street, because it meant everyone had to look to the PM "to see who is in charge".

Really ? What a ****ing **** show.

I'm ****, so I'll surround myself with people who are even more **** than me, so that I don't look quite as ****.

Is this the best this country can do ? This abject Govt has cost thousands of lives. They should all be lobbed in the bin.