Coronavirus

[PleaseNotPoll]

You know that’s sarcastic self deprecation right?

Of course not. He didn't actually read it.

"For those of us who like to talk Britain down, all this good news is hard to take. The vaccination figures are shocking. Nearly 20 million first doses administered. A forward-thinking procurement plan. The leading large nation, far ahead of the US and, more gallingly for us frothing Remoaners, miles ahead of Europe. Nothing could be more depressing for the honest self-loathing liberal Brit. You know the type. Recycle assiduously but fly once a fortnight."
Not exactly subtle, is it?

 

[duggie2000]

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[Saf]

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What's the punchline, Duggie, mate?

 

[Sucky]

What's the punchline, Duggie, mate?

Racism

 

[brb]

Have to say I'm strongly against the idea of 'vaccine passports" for domestic reasons.

International travel is a different matter of course, but talk of having to prove you've had a jab to get specific jobs or to visit a restaurant is absolute nonsense imo.

I'm not really understanding the purpose of vaccine passports and what they achieve.

If you've had the vaccine, why would you still be allowed to cross a border, as you can still spread it.

 

[duggie2000]

What's the punchline, Duggie, mate?

Sucky

 

[Tobes]

I'm not really understanding the purpose of vaccine passports and what they achieve.

If you've had the vaccine, why would you still be allowed to cross a border, as you can still spread it.

Because they’ll likely demand a COVID test with 72 hrs of arrival as well as the passport, plus temp check on arrival.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

If they bring in vaccine passports before the yoof have been done too I’m running onto a runway at Luton to stop a flight to Tenerife.

 

[brb]

Because they’ll likely demand a COVID test with 72 hrs of arrival as well as the passport, plus temp check on arrival.

Which is fair enough. I still don't get who the vaccine passport is protecting. It is fine by me to have one, but I've yet to see anyone, explain who the passport is protecting.

Only reason I say this is I saw a heated debate a week or two back. A guy who ran restaurants wanted them brought in, simply because it overcomes psychological barriers.

On the other side of the debate, some guy in medicine, who said the vaccine passport does nothing other than say you've had a vaccine, he didn't understand who it was protecting.

Edit: What I can see is how a passport would bring a uniformed approach, universally. Which could be used to register covid tests taken, ie date and time stamped and other stuff.

Although would a simple app not be better, or with past problems regarding apps, should we not be going down that road - said tongue in cheek.

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

I've got my first one at 4.45 pm today. I got a letter through on Monday saying I could now book my appointment. I went on-line at first and went through the motions until I clicked on book appointment and it said my nearest centre was in ****ing St Helens. I then called the number given and went through the same ritual, only to be told exactly the same. I said there must be somewhere closer and she said iyt was because it was the 'National' vaccination centre I was dealing with. I should wait until I heard from my GP.

I was at a funeral that afternoon and was telling one of my mates. He said he got the same St Helens ****. He then told me he'd found a link on the Warrington Guardian website and had arranged it for this morning at Warrington hospital. I followed the same link on Tuesday night, they emailed me back yesterday and I'm in later on. I'm pleased I by-passed the ****, but it really shouldn't be like that. I'll let you know how it goes

 

[Peej]

I've got my first one at 4.45 pm today. I got a letter through on Monday saying I could now book my appointment. I went on-line at first and went through the motions until I clicked on book appointment and it said my nearest centre was in ****ing St Helens. I then called the number given and went through the same ritual, only to be told exactly the same. I said there must be somewhere closer and she said iyt was because it was the 'National' vaccination centre I was dealing with. I should wait until I heard from my GP.

I was at a funeral that afternoon and was telling one of my mates. He said he got the same St Helens ****. He then told me he'd found a link on the Warrington Guardian website and had arranged it for this morning at Warrington hospital. I followed the same link on Tuesday night, they emailed me back yesterday and I'm in later on. I'm pleased I by-passed the ****, but it really shouldn't be like that. I'll let you know how it goes

To vaccinate 40-60m people and in some cases have people looking at a little longer journey until local options are open isn’t that big an issue. I’m just shocked that it’s worked so well.

my tip, take a couple of paracetamol slow an hour or so after.

 

[Tobes]

Which is fair enough. I still don't get who the vaccine passport is protecting. It is fine by me to have one, but I've yet to see anyone, explain who the passport is protecting.

Only reason I say this is I saw a heated debate a week or two back. A guy who ran restaurants wanted them brought in, simply because it overcomes psychological barriers.

On the other side of the debate, some guy in medicine, who said the vaccine passport does nothing other than say you've had a vaccine, he didn't understand who it was protecting.

Edit: What I can see is how a passport would bring a uniformed approach, universally. Which could be used to register covid tests taken, ie date and time stamped and other stuff.

Although would a simple app not be better, or with past problems regarding apps, should we not be going down that road - said tongue in cheek.

I was just talking about international travel mate.

The calls for domestic ‘passports’ for hospitality etc are misguided imo.

 

[Solid Air]

To vaccinate 40-60m people and in some cases have people looking at a little longer journey until local options are open isn’t that big an issue. I’m just shocked that it’s worked so well.

my tip, take a couple of paracetamol slow an hour or so after.

the local options are open just appears no standard way of accessing them bar your GP "inviting" you .

 

[Peej]

the local options are open just appears no standard way of accessing them bar your GP "inviting" you .

I didn’t wait for my GP. Decided the drive to a larger location was worth it. Guess it’s frustrating if you are waiting for that local invite. Seems the big venues have priority access to supplies.
Finally had a follow up from my transplant unit to see if I had been invited. Always be a few that slip, hope fully it’s the ones savvy enough to resolve and not the older/more at risk.

 

[Solid Air]

I didn’t wait for my GP. Decided the drive to a larger location was worth it. Guess it’s frustrating if you are waiting for that local invite. Seems the big venues have priority access to supplies.
Finally had a follow up from my transplant unit to see if I had been invited. Always be a few that slip, hope fully it’s the ones savvy enough to resolve and not the older/more at risk.

yeah i've booked the wife in but it is the other side of the nearest city so will take nearly 40 mins each way but at least i'm certain it is accessible . There are vaccinations being done a mile from us and the biggest local one is about 3-4 miles and perfectly accessible as i know the place reasonably well but waiting for her GP is decidedly risky ..

 

[JakartaToon]

Vaccine passports........I think we should have numbers tattooed on us maybe I can wear a big star badge aswell

Why is it a big deal? Most people travelling to places with dubious diseases carry WHO vaccination passports, which they either have to show on entry, particularly if there is an outbreak of a particular disease at the time or show to the company they are working for there. You can be refused entry to the country if you are not carrying them.

If I have to carry a document showing I have had a COVID vaccine, its not different to carrying one showing I have been vaccinated against Japanese encephalitis, cholera or yellow fever. In fact I would suspect it will just be an additional stamp on the WHO passport.

 

[brb]

Why is it a big deal? Most people travelling to places with dubious diseases carry WHO vaccination passports, which they either have to show on entry, particularly if there is an outbreak of a particular disease at the time or show to the company they are working for there. You can be refused entry to the country if you are not carrying them.

If I have to carry a document showing I have had a COVID vaccine, its not different to carrying one showing I have been vaccinated against Japanese encephalitis, cholera or yellow fever. In fact I would suspect it will just be an additional stamp on the WHO passport.

In fairness to Aber, I think there is a difference.

As far as I understand is once you have had the vaccination, you can still spread the virus, so all the passport would be saying is I can't catch the virus, but I can still transmit it.

IF I'm correct in that thought, then it would be mean, IF you were allowed to travel to another country in Europe for a holiday, and allowed in on that passport, and the country you are visiting had not completed it's vaccinations, then surely it's nothing more than a licence to kill.

As way of example, you mentioned yellow fever in your list, but yellow fever is passed on by mosquito not by close contact with someone, so it is vastly different.

Obviously I'm happy to be corrected on the above, it's just my thoughts at this moment in time, until someone can explain to me differently. I have no problem with carrying a covid passport if required, but I think there needs to be better understanding/education to why it is required.

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

I had my first AZ vaccine yesterday. No side-effects whatsoever

 

[pompeymeowth]

A relative of mine in Brazil, has told me, that one of her friends has died of covid, along with her entire family, Both Parents and all siblings and also some nephews and nieces too.

 

[aberdude]

Why is it a big deal? Most people travelling to places with dubious diseases carry WHO vaccination passports, which they either have to show on entry, particularly if there is an outbreak of a particular disease at the time or show to the company they are working for there. You can be refused entry to the country if you are not carrying them.

If I have to carry a document showing I have had a COVID vaccine, its not different to carrying one showing I have been vaccinated against Japanese encephalitis, cholera or yellow fever. In fact I would suspect it will just be an additional stamp on the WHO passport.

Maybe read your rights that the Geneva convention gave us......that should be enough to tell you why people will fight this.