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Not saying you’re lying by the way Ponky, more pointing to the fact that people just look for excuses to justify their ineptitude in business. Working off margins that small is suicidal if you’re a retailer.
It’s nothing to do with ineptitude, it’s a matter of business choice. It’s also nothing to do with tariffs from EU countries as there aren’t any, it’s to do with VAT collection, increased paperwork, bureaucracy and thus cost, plus new charges introduced by couriers and RM for packages sent from the EU. All of which combines to put the U.K. market in the can’t be arsed category for many small suppliers - Worldwide (as the new U.K. VAT rules are global)
 
It’s nothing to do with ineptitude, it’s a matter of business choice. It’s also nothing to do with tariffs from EU countries as there aren’t any, it’s to do with VAT collection, increased paperwork, bureaucracy and thus cost, plus new charges introduced by couriers and RM for packages sent from the EU. All of which combines to put the U.K. market in the can’t be arsed category for many small suppliers - Worldwide (as the new U.K. VAT rules are global)

Golden rule mate, if there’s demand there will be supply. It’s not even a discussion. If you can’t make it work then somebody else will.
 
People love to complicate things on here. I’m ****ing made up that there’s so many can’t doers in this country. Hard work run for the hills.
 
Golden rule mate, if there’s demand there will be supply. It’s not even a discussion. If you can’t make it work then somebody else will.
Fiscal reality means that base line costs are what they are. If fewer people choose to play and the base costs have increased, supply and demand means higher prices for the consumer. That’s not even a discussion either.
 
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Ah, good old Supply and Demand, one of the mainstays of the free market economy. Good job these Golden Rules apply to ensure capitalism never fails...
 
Fiscal reality means that base line costs are what they are. If fewer people choose to play and the base costs have increased, supply and demand means higher prices for the consumer. That’s not even a discussion either.

Well it is a discussion because if the market demand is here in the U.K. and the suppliers have gone from the EU it creates a void and an opportunity. There’s not a finite amount of allowable chances in the world mate. Again, the basics.

How can somebody think a world which has evolved for billions of years can grind to a halt because of change? It’s utterly baffling.
 
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Ah, good old Supply and Demand, one of the mainstays of the free market economy. Good job these Golden Rules apply to ensure capitalism never fails...

You and I will never agree on anything on a thread like this, you think my opinions are twisted and I think yours are beyond ridiculous so there we have it. No need to cry, we can still talk about football.
 
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Did anybody see that Israel had completed a small trial on patients with severe Covid using some cancer treatment drug and every one of them went from critical to discharged from hospital within 5 days? Or something like that.

@West WindsR must’ve heard down the shop when he was getting Challah this morning.
 
If you’re doing enough volume on the continent then I don’t see the value in a U.K. distribution silo, are your goods manufactured in the U.K.?

Have we not all experienced this before by the way? Everybody has been to Zara. T shirt £25.99 - same T shirt €27.50... written on the same label.

Very much part of what I'm looking at ... but the costs of establishing a distribution hub within Europe (European bonded warehouse and logistics) are not cheap... and whilst we were part of the EU it was not an issue ... so no need for one.
 
Did anybody see that Israel had completed a small trial on patients with severe Covid using some cancer treatment drug and every one of them went from critical to discharged from hospital within 5 days? Or something like that.

@West WindsR must’ve heard down the shop when he was getting Challah this morning.

Good country Israel

Minus the walls, guns n ****, could do without the perpetual threat of destruction too.

But I'd go if I was Jewish
 
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I voted Brexit, quite simply because I do not believe in a one state. You've only got to look at the mess Trump has caused in America, to see what happens, he's not the first President either that has done something to disturb either domestic or world peace.

What was the EU's first stance over the vaccine, grab us by the throat and invoke article 16, whether they backed down, matters not to me, it's the fact they even considered it, let alone threaten to do it. It showed them for the bullies I'd always imagined.

Then Macron closed the border to accompanied freight just before Christmas, without warning, it was what it was, and we dealt with it, despite it meaning lots of European drivers feared not be able to spend Christmas with their families.

A lot of the running debates were around Ireland in the run up to leaving, to even suggest what the EU did, ticked all the boxes for me, in how I perceive the powerhouse of Brussels to be.

Since then, we've had everything from ham sandwiches to fish, like I give a shhite. The EU's attitude needs a bomb under it, regardless of it's trading power.
 
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Well it is a discussion because if the market demand is here in the U.K. and the suppliers have gone from the EU it creates a void and an opportunity. There’s not a finite amount of allowable chances in the world mate. Again, the basics.

How can somebody think a world which has evolved for billions of years can grind to a halt because of change? It’s utterly baffling.

That’s a complete strawman though, I’ve said nothing of the sort.

All I’ve pointed out is that the new VAT rules for small shipments are ludicrous - which they are, that barriers to trade leads to less trade, which is an undeniable fact, and that reduction in competition plus increased base costs leads to increased consumer cost.

New opportunities in the domestic market of 65m will be created, but the same new barriers that’ll create those opportunities here, will apply in equal measure to the market of 550m that sit on the other side of those barriers.
 
That’s a complete strawman though, I’ve said nothing of the sort.

All I’ve pointed out is that the new VAT rules for small shipments are ludicrous - which they are, that barriers to trade leads to less trade, which is an undeniable fact, and that reduction in competition plus increased base costs leads to increased consumer cost.

New opportunities in the domestic market of 65m will be created, but the same new barriers that’ll create those opportunities here, will apply in equal measure to the market of 550m that sit on the other side of those barriers.

Lots of barriers bro, I get ya. What you havin for dinner?
 
You and I will never agree on anything on a thread like this, you think my opinions are twisted and I think yours are beyond ridiculous so there we have it. No need to cry, we can still talk about football.


One day you’ll say something that makes sense to me mate. I expect.
 
I voted Brexit, quite simply because I do not believe in a one state. You've only got to look at the mess Trump has caused in America, to see what happens, he's not the first President either that has done something to disturb either domestic or world peace.

What was the EU's first stance over the vaccine, grab us by the throat and invoke article 16, whether they backed down, matters not to me, it's the fact they even considered it, let alone threaten to do it. It showed them for the bullies I'd always imagined.

Then Macron closed the border to accompanied freight just before Christmas, without warning, it was what it was, and we dealt with it, despite it meaning lots of European drivers feared not be able to spend Christmas with their families.

A lot of the running debates were around Ireland in the run up to leaving, to even suggest what the EU did, ticked all the boxes for me, in how I perceive the powerhouse of Brussels to be.

Since then, we've had everything from ham sandwiches to fish, like I give a shhite. The EU's attitude needs a bomb under it, regardless of it's trading power.

They've been massive ****s of late, pressure does that.

Macron is a gaff machine tho, irrespective of the EU.
 
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