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Not saying you’re lying by the way Ponky, more pointing to the fact that people just look for excuses to justify their ineptitude in business. Working off margins that small is suicidal if you’re a retailer.
 
Whats tariff, roughly 8%?

So a single consumer is paying £1,000 for seeds from Germany? The consumer? These are evidently wholesale deals. The demand isn’t there because nobody is having weddings, parties, nobody can attend funerals, nobody can go into hospitals. Dead industry.

If the demand is there she would adjust her prices accordingly and make it work.

don’t think it was just the tariff, can’t remember the exact details but it was a combo of extra checks and balances out in place (by the host county ) to export to the uk , which all added up to make it unviable.

wasn’t cut flowers either, it was supply to the garden industry, which they said had been thriving overall due to people being stuck at home.
 
Should sell tuna

Bare doe for a big one.


Saw it on a fsih show
 
Not saying you’re lying by the way Ponky, more pointing to the fact that people just look for excuses to justify their ineptitude in business. Working off margins that small is suicidal if you’re a retailer.

Yeah I agree you need to have a business model that can accommodate these sorts of changes. I guess sometimes, if you’ve got other markets that can fill the gap though, then for some, it’s simpler to just **** off the hassle and concentrate your efforts elsewhere.
 
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Not saying you’re lying by the way Ponky, more pointing to the fact that people just look for excuses to justify their ineptitude in business. Working off margins that small is suicidal if you’re a retailer.

Brexit is costing a fortune to UK business mate - a particularly problematic area is online sales.

Pre Brexit a customer say in Portugal orders a shirt on-line from our website and pays. Gets his shirt a couple of days later - happy customer.

Post Brexit - same item, same price. But we are no longer in the EU so there is duty to pay when the shirt enters the EU. 2 choices... either have the customer pay the duty when he receives the package .... great customers experience that... or we pay it. Bang goes our margin as duty (unlike VAT) is an absolute cost.

Simple example but imagine that many times over.
 
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don’t think it was just the tariff, can’t remember the exact details but it was a combo of extra checks and balances out in place (by the host county ) to export to the uk , which all added up to make it unviable.

wasn’t cut flowers either, it was supply to the garden industry, which they said had been thriving overall due to people being stuck at home.

Fair enough, **** her then, nobody will give a **** about gardens when the pubs open so she was a hiding to nothing either way.
 
don’t think it was just the tariff, can’t remember the exact details but it was a combo of extra checks and balances out in place (by the host county ) to export to the uk , which all added up to make it unviable.

wasn’t cut flowers either, it was supply to the garden industry, which they said had been thriving overall due to people being stuck at home.

The whole admin side is becoming crippling ... particularly in regard to origin of goods.
 
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Fair enough, **** her then, nobody will give a **** about gardens when the pubs open so she was a hiding to nothing either way.

Lol. It was a bloke, but yeah we’re a nation of pissheads at heart rather than gardeners.
 
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Brexit is costing a fortune to UK business mate - a particularly problematic area is online sales.

Pre Brexit a customer say in Portugal orders a shirt on-line from our website and pays. Gets his shirt a couple of days later - happy customer.

Post Brexit - same item, same price. But we are no longer in the EU so there is duty to pay when the shirt enters the EU. 2 choices... either have the customer pay the duty when he receives the package .... great customers experience that... or we pay it. Bang goes our margin as duty (unlike VAT) is an absolute cost.

Simple example but imagine that many times over.

If you’re doing enough volume on the continent then I don’t see the value in a U.K. distribution silo, are your goods manufactured in the U.K.?

Have we not all experienced this before by the way? Everybody has been to Zara. T shirt £25.99 - same T shirt €27.50... written on the same label.
 
The whole admin side is becoming crippling ... particularly in regard to origin of goods.

I think in the case I’d mentioned, each order to the UK needed an extra layer of checks and balances before it could be exported. And then again at the border when it came in.

The added costs just meant that the supplier has shifted their interests to other EU based markets.
 
I think in the case I’d mentioned, each order to the UK needed an extra layer of checks and balances before it could be exported. And then again at the border when it came in.

The added costs just meant that the supplier has shifted their interests to other EU based markets.

I thought there was a waiver on border checks for FMCG until July?
 
I have been part of a Brexit working group since I joined my current employer just over a year ago. We import our goods from many sources into a central warehouse in the Midlands from which we also supply our retail outlets across Europe as well in the UK. We have a similar set up in North America.

I do spend a lot of my time talking with government authorities across the world - it's what I do and am coming up to 40 years experience in my profession.

But no... wasn't me.<cheers>

Alright ill let you off then
 
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I thought there was a waiver on border checks for FMCG until July?

Yeah think they were probs just anticipating that and decided to **** it off before it became a problem for them.
 
Or wait for The Netherlands to figure it out for them.

I think one of issues was the end of the EU plant passport for the UK, it’s apparently been replaced with a Phytosanitary certificate, which is issued by the health authority in the originating country and that costs the supplier extra to export.

But yeah, the Dutch export loads of plants to us, so they’ll find a way to figure it out. Probs comes down to economy of scales, the example I gave was a small(ish) business and I think the programme was concentrating on how small business has been affected both for import to the EU and from EU businesses exporting to the UK
 
Not saying you’re lying by the way Ponky, more pointing to the fact that people just look for excuses to justify their ineptitude in business. Working off margins that small is suicidal if you’re a retailer.


Supermarkets work off tiny margins. Which is one reason why independent retailers can’t compete.
 
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