Coronavirus

[Quesadaad]

Our lass is provisionally booked in her to have her first dose on the 9th of December. Apparently the Pfizer vaccine has been all but approved.
Will keep you updated on if she grows a tail, or more shockingly, a sense of humour.

 

[Tobes]

It'll be interesting to see how many countries take that approach. I think a fair few will next year and the one after but it will slowly fade away after that.

I can see the countries who’ve handled the pandemic superbly well like Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, UAE etc, possibly insisting on proof of immunisation to gain entry.

Many countries already insist on proof of a COVID test in the days prior to arrival, so it won’t be such a big leap for many.

 

[Libby]

I can see the countries who’ve handled the pandemic superbly well like Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, UAE etc, possibly insisting on proof of immunisation to gain entry.

Many countries already insist on proof of a COVID test in the days prior to arrival, so it won’t be such a big leap for many.

Yeah think one Australian airline has already said it, and a politician there has said it will be as close to mandatory as can be.

 

[PINKIE]

Yeah think one Australian airline has already said it, and a politician there has said it will be as close to mandatory as can be.

I agree with that stance to be honest. Especially early on until we can either supress the virus to the point where it isn't a problem, or eradicate it altogether. International travel is what allowed this virus to spread so rapidly, so I think it is simply pragmatic to put measures in place to mitigate it's spread again once travel restrictions are lifted.

 

[Archers Road]

I'm in no rush, said a couple of days ago that I'm unlikely to be top of the list or front of the queue so that's a moot point for now.
If it helps those especially vulnerable, go for it.

It'll definitely feel a bit big brother if we're forced to take it though. Can't help thinking that.

Still fancy a winter holiday mind, and if it was a condition of being able to leave the country and not have to quarantine coming back, I probably would.
If it was available to me.

I don’t think we’ll be forced to take it. That would be political suicide for any government. At some point though, there’s probably going to be some fairly robust persuasion being applied.

 

[PINKIE]

I don’t think we’ll be forced to take it. That would be political suicide for any government. At some point though, there’s probably going to be some fairly robust persuasion being applied.

Was listening to a prog on Radio 4 the other day about the smallpox vaccine in the late 1700's. There was back then an anti-vax movement that resisted the vaccine. Govts were forced to look at people's individual choices balanced against the threat of those not being vaccinated putting others at risk, and eventually decided to make it mandatory. This fuelled the anti-vaxxers vitriol.

One of the commentators on the programme was arguing that the same would happen today if it was compulsory to have the vaccine. Her suggestion was that the best way to get herd immunity, given that around 80% of the population would need to be vaccinated, and that around only 54% of the UK population have said that they definitely would get a vaccine, would be for the Govt to mandate it, but offer an opt out. That way, you shut down the anti vaxxers argument that they are being compelled to have a vaccine, but that most of the population would comply, thereby achieving the 80% mark.

 

[Solid Air]

Was listening to a prog on Radio 4 the other day about the smallpox vaccine in the late 1700's. There was back then an anti-vax movement that resisted the vaccine. Govts were forced to look at people's individual choices balanced against the threat of those not being vaccinated putting others at risk, and eventually decided to make it mandatory. This fuelled the anti-vaxxers vitriol.

One of the commentators on the programme was arguing that the same would happen today if it was compulsory to have the vaccine. Her suggestion was that the best way to get herd immunity, given that around 80% of the population would need to be vaccinated, and that around only 54% of the UK population have said that they definitely would get a vaccine, would be for the Govt to mandate it, but offer an opt out. That way, you shut down the anti vaxxers argument that they are being compelled to have a vaccine, but that most of the population would comply, thereby achieving the 80% mark.

and electoral defeat at next election .

 

[brb]

I'm sure there was one country months ago, I cannot remember where, but you couldn't attend certain functions unless you could prove you was covid clear, and you entered via an app on your phone. It wouldn't take much through the natural course of events, to ensure everyone takes the vaccine without making mandatory, basically you would be limited in your movements by refusal, until you had a change of heart, that way the individual can decide the options for themself, how important the vaccine is to them. Let's not forget regarding travel, the EU could decide as a whole, that it may be a condition of travel, regardless of our home thoughts.

 

[Tobes]

Was listening to a prog on Radio 4 the other day about the smallpox vaccine in the late 1700's. There was back then an anti-vax movement that resisted the vaccine. Govts were forced to look at people's individual choices balanced against the threat of those not being vaccinated putting others at risk, and eventually decided to make it mandatory. This fuelled the anti-vaxxers vitriol.

One of the commentators on the programme was arguing that the same would happen today if it was compulsory to have the vaccine. Her suggestion was that the best way to get herd immunity, given that around 80% of the population would need to be vaccinated, and that around only 54% of the UK population have said that they definitely would get a vaccine, would be for the Govt to mandate it, but offer an opt out. That way, you shut down the anti vaxxers argument that they are being compelled to have a vaccine, but that most of the population would comply, thereby achieving the 80% mark.

Different illness though.

Once the vulnerable are vaccinated the death toll falls dramatically. If some choose to make the decision that they’ll take their chances, then let them crack on. Freedom of choice innit.

It’d only take one or two of the anti vaxxer / paid shills to literally die on their chosen hill, for many to review their life choice imo.

I’m right at the front of the queue, can’t wait, so I can crack on with my life. This year has been a pile of ****e for me.

 

[Treble]

I'll be waiting to find out the cost of the vaccines. Anything more that than £2.86 and I'll be sticking with a bottle of Domestos from Aldi.

 

[Quesadaad]

Not sure how well it’s been publicised, but you can’t have the vaccine within 7 days of having the flu jab either.
Moving along quickly in the NHS it seems. The wife was asked on Friday wether she wants it. She has until Wednesday to decide.
If she decides against it, she’ll be back to the bottom of the pile.
I’d have it tomorrow if offered it FWIW.

 

[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

Our lass is provisionally booked in her to have her first dose on the 9th of December. Apparently the Pfizer vaccine has been all but approved.
Will keep you updated on if she grows a tail, or more shockingly, a sense of humour.

Really? Where are you based?

I didn't know the process had begun

 

[Quesadaad]

Really? Where are you based?

I didn't know the process had begun

In Hull mate.
The wife works for the NHS but is also on medication which ****s with her immune system. To be fair, they seem to be getting everything in place so that when the vaccines do get approval, they are ready go.

 

[duggie2000]

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[CFC: Champs £launderx17]

In Hull mate.
The wife works for the NHS but is also on medication which ****s with her immune system. To be fair, they seem to be getting everything in place so that when the vaccines do get approval, they are ready go.

That's good that she is getting sorted. Was she stopped from working in hospital because of her meds/immune system?

 

[Quesadaad]

That's good that she is getting sorted. Was she stopped from working in hospital because of her meds/immune system?

Cheers
They just moved her to a non-clinical part of the hospital so she’s managed to work all the way through. Certainly wouldn’t have thought she’d be classed as ‘extremely vulnerable’, but suppose you’ve got to trust the science dudes.

 

[Commachio]

I'd have it. Even a 50% chance is better than non.

 

[JakartaToon]

No mate. Who do you think kept the country ticking over whilst all the furlough ****s were sat at home doing jack?

So you're quite happy for public servants to get a pay cut and increased taxes

So with your line of thinking doctors and nurses should be getting a pay freeze. Are they?

'course not, that would be political suicide.

Public servants seen as soft targets. Always have been and always will be.

Oh and check out the max pay for the majority of civil servants. Just a midges dick above the national minimum wage.

You seemed to spend most of your time pulling old prams out of the river or practicing for the 2nd Edition of ‘Cooking while Pissed - the Boogerman way’ based on your posting history on here.

 

[Schlem Boogerman]

You seemed to spend most of your time pulling old prams out of the river or practicing for the 2nd Edition of ‘Cooking while Pissed - the Boogerman way’ based on your posting history on here.

I do like food, drink and a bit of environmental graft whilst walking my dogs.

Keeps me fit.

I mean, what kind of **** throws a barrel of oil in a beautiful burn?

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Keeping on topic.
I've had a tickly cough since last week when we were sent home as one of our team leaders was diagnosed with covid.

I'm not concerned, should I be?

 

[SaintsForTheWin]

I do like food, drink and a bit of environmental graft whilst walking my dogs.

Keeps me fit.

I mean, what kind of **** throws a barrel of oil in a beautiful burn?

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Keeping on topic.
I've had a tickly cough since last week when we were sent home as one of our team leaders was diagnosed with covid.

I'm not concerned, should I be?

Good luck mate. But I’m sure you caught something from the food you cook