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You have to wonder how stupid you have to be to come out with that, given recent events.
one off, if not the most watched nations on earth....
i'm all for cameras in most cases, some i'm not, but this is one where i'm in favour of.
I don't want to sound like I'm excusing their actions but imagine for a moment that copper is generally a decent bloke and the fact he loses that sense of professionalism coming out with stuff like that, does make me wonder how much pressure they're under.
Mate, you go into a situation where someone is acting violent then you will react to it, either with violence or threats of it.
Basic life instinct, they are violent, put them down as quick as you can.. Don't ****ing pussy about....
Don't forget, i'm all for Marine A tho.
I think there are many reasons for it tbh. As a copper going into the job you know you're going to encounter that ****. But what makes you 'lose it' imo also depends on how often you encounter it. Having to deal with it once a month is very different mentally and emotionally to having to face it every day.
That depends on the state of society generally towards the law or fear of getting caught but also how stretched the police force and the job of the average copper is these days.
Is he armed? you just can't take a chance now...
Gone long ago are the days where the cop would give you a clip round the lugs, or threaten to call ya mam.
Things have changed, and so should police protection....
A lot comes down to two things also, threat level and intent, you could throw in a third, necessity.
Are you under severe threat?
Do you intend to commit harm?
Is it necessary to subdue someone by actual force or threat of it?
This whole thing came about because some Yank cops had little/no regard for the welfare of a man that four of them had comfortably in custody.
Take this to a totally different situation (going off track a bit here but sticking with the threat of "chocking someone out" in the vid) MMA fighters try to choke people out all the time (apparently legally) but have not intention of killing them.
Perspective between words, intent and action.
I was one of them
Those days are gone Comm. They weren't great for everyone either and the police didn't help themselves either at times. But there was a general respect for police, much more than there is now and this gradual breakdown in the end can only have a negative effect on society as a whole.
I still remember bobbies on the beat btw. I wonder how many born in the last 20-25 years know what that even looks like.
And there we have it...
End off the day, the cops are law, the ones who retain order...**** with them, well, **** you.
When i was an apprentice (17) one of the lads i worked with said something i have never forgot, may mean nothing to most but puts things into perspective for me.
Conversation.....
Me, Sam why do you always check the lighting up time in the evening news before riding home.
Sam, "because there is a legal time for having to put your lights on".
Me, "yeah but who gives a **** really?"
Sam, (and this is the bit that counts), True but when we all break that little law and nobody cares which is the next little law we can ignore and at what point does the law become worth enforcing.
I remember when kicking someones fence in or smashing a telephone box/bus shelter was criminal damage, now it's anti-social behaviour because we don't want to criminalise young criminals.
It all starts somewhere mate....I just remember things spiralling out off control...Footy fights and then it got worse when mates were carrying knives..wtf.
So my best mate (who i've spoken about many times) joined the Marines....He was only in 4 weeks, and fell on a break, he came come giving stories....Like a fool, i fell for it....Next thing i knew, at 17, i packed up my painting and decorating course..And there i was was, a scrawny little 17 year old runt, thinking WTF have i done....
I had to grow up fast, and get a ****ing grip on life... Scrawny little runt had a green beret by the age of 18....
Nothing special, just determination, oh and and ability to run for ****ing miles....I had used to discipline very fast. It keeps ****ing order ffs.
Guess i'd rather be a soldier than a cop....they can do no right it seems.
Teenager died today, attempting to cross the channel...
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/teen-drowned-while-trying-to-reach-uk-232404/
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/teen-drowned-while-trying-to-reach-uk-232404/
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