Coronavirus

[Stan]

What time is the Trump Show on?

 

[Saf]

This is the childish shhite that I get PM'd to me, from Toby...

At least stand by your beliefs. YOU voted for these ****s and were proud of it. You have blood on your hands, just like them.

**** YOU WITH YOUR PATHETIC MOD BUTTONS

 

[Stan]

Back to Coronavirus...

Scotland are saying that 25% of their deaths from Covid-19 are happening in care homes.

I’m still of the belief that the number of deaths will be higher than reported. We are starting to see a spike now in deaths compared to the average over the last 5 years. Up until the end of March we had continued to stay under the 5 year average.

I’m not sure comparing stats is effective considering pretty much every countries aren’t accurate. Some countries figures are ridiculously low given the news coming out of them. There’s still deaths going down as Covid-19 where that might not be the primary cause of death. I still believe the figures would be higher than the official count even with them investigated and removed from the covid-19 tally, but maybe not as high as some people are looking to make it.

It’s best to just wait until there’s a clearer picture and then the inquest can start. It’s all just guess work, at the moment.

It’s not guess work.

 

[brb]

That's the sort of shhite, I get from people like that. There is no way people will change after this crisis, while you have lowlife such as that telling people how they should vote.

 

[Saf]

It’s not guess work.

Ok then.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Ok then.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-can-we-trust-the-covid-19-death-toll

Good article if you fancy. Probably not great for confirmation bias but worth a go anyway.

 

[brb]

Another PM from Toby

Posting PMs as well? What a coward

 

[Saf]

That's the sort of shhite, I get from people like that. There is no way people will change after this crisis, while you have lowlife such as that telling people how they should vote.

He’s the biggest hypocrite on the board. He goes around constantly telling people to kill themselves daily so it’s a bit rich to use the ‘blood on your hands’ line. He’s a mess with the drink and drugs he abuses so he’s never been in any position to lecture people the way that he does.

 

[Stan]

Ok then.

There are official stats from the ONS. It’s not guess work. The stats won’t be 100% accurate as that’s impossible right now but it’s certainly not guess work. They’re not sticking their fingers in the air or up their arses and hazarding a wild guess.

 

[Saf]

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-can-we-trust-the-covid-19-death-toll

Good article if you fancy. Probably not great for confirmation bias but worth a go anyway.

‘But we can’t be sure that every coronavirus death will be correctly diagnosed and indicated on a death certificate.‘


This is my point. We’ll never know the correct figure because there’s people dying who have tested positive but that still hasn’t been the reason for their death. It’s going down as a Covid-19 death regardless just by testing positive. I’m in no doubt it’s happening the other way around, too.

 

[Diego]

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-can-we-trust-the-covid-19-death-toll

Good article if you fancy. Probably not great for confirmation bias but worth a go anyway.

Very good article

 

[brb]

He’s the biggest hypocrite on the board. He goes around constantly telling people to kill themselves daily so it’s a bit rich to use the ‘blood on your hands’ line. He’s a mess with the drink and drugs he abuses so he’s never been in any position to lecture people the way that he does.

I've had it from Toby in the past telling me to kill myself, several times. It's not the first time he has sent me abusive PM's either.

 

[Saf]

I should have worded that another way but cba to change it

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

‘But we can’t be sure that every coronavirus death will be correctly diagnosed and indicated on a death certificate.‘


This is my point. We’ll never know the correct figure because there’s people dying who have tested positive but that still hasn’t been the reason for their death. It’s going down as a Covid-19 death regardless just by testing positive. I’m in no doubt it’s happening the other way around, too.

I think if someone dies while they have the virus then they ought to be included no matter what else they were suffering from.

I expect our lack of testing will make the figures more understated than they need to.

 

[Archers Road]

He’s the biggest hypocrite on the board. He goes around constantly telling people to kill themselves daily so it’s a bit rich to use the ‘blood on your hands’ line. He’s a mess with the drink and drugs he abuses so he’s never been in any position to lecture people the way that he does.

He’s far from being the biggest hypocrite on the board. What you see is what you get with Toby. It’s not like he ever tries to sugar coat the poison. If Toby ever stabs anyone, it won’t be in the back.

 

[Saf]

I think if someone dies while they have the virus then they ought to be included no matter what else they were suffering from.

I expect our lack of testing will make the figures more understated than they need to.

I agree the figures will be lower than the reality.

I disagree that they should go in the official death count without knowing if Covid-19 was responsible for their death. They might have been asymptotic.

 

[brb]

He’s far from being the biggest hypocrite on the board. What you see is what you get with Toby. It’s not like he ever tries to sugar coat the poison. If Toby ever stabs anyone, it won’t be in the back.

So you think it's ok for him to tell people (and me) to kill themselves and send abusive PM's?

Sorry mate, but I try my best to keep the peace on here, I don't deserve any of that.

 

[Stan]

Man has flu.

Bus runs over man.

Man dies.

It wasn’t the bus that killed the man it was the flu as he probably would’ve died anyway.

 

[brb]

I knew when I allowed Toby back on here it would be aggro, he's always trying to pick a fight with anyone that does not share his view.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I agree the figures will be lower than the reality.

I disagree that they should go in the official death count without knowing if Covid-19 was responsible for their death. They might have been asymptotic.

I expect that scenario is going to cover very few people. If they were suffering something else likely to kill them soon they’d be unlikely to be asymptomatic I’d guess.