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He may as well **** off and let Sunak and the scientists do the job. Johnson’s role has become the guy who points at the journalists during the press conference. As I’ve always said, he’s a game show host at best. He should let the grown ups to get the job done.

For once he's had to admit to himself he's out of his depth. And that humbling is the only reason he's coming across as good in front of the cameras.
 
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The state temporarily covering wages of those who would otherwise become unemployed to lower the burden on private businesses (via grants paid to the businesses) to protect the capitalist system, without taking any stake in said businesses thus not taking any control for the state or the people and therefor not socialism :emoticon-0172-mooni

I didn't say it would last but what is happening right now certainly isn't free market capitalism, government have taken almost complete control of the flow of money in the economy.
 
Yes it is and its welcome !

It really isn’t. If you think these extreme measures in an extreme situation is somehow a sign of the tories embracing socialism rather than acting out of necessity in the short term then you’re going to be highly disappointed when this is over and it stops!
 
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It really isn’t. If you think these extreme measures in an extreme situation is somehow a sign of the tories embracing socialism rather than acting out of necessity in the short term then you’re going to be highly disappointed when this is over and it stops!

Embrace no, I was being flippant
Use the tools of socialism, yes.
 
I didn't say it would last but what is happening right now certainly isn't free market capitalism, government have taken almost complete control of the flow of money in the economy.

Except they haven’t because the onus is still entirely on businesses to take advantage of the mechanisms being made available.

As I said in a previous comment though I agree it isn’t free market capitalism.
 
Except they haven’t because the onus is still entirely on businesses to take advantage of the mechanisms being made available.

As I said in a previous comment though I agree it isn’t free market capitalism.

You think business won't take the money?
Hard to see they have a choice
 
You think business won't take the money?
Hard to see they have a choice

I’ve already said earlier in this thread I think businesses will take advantage of the measures. But the fact the decision lies with the businesses means the government hasn’t taken control and it isn’t socialism ;)
 
I’ve already said earlier in this thread I think businesses will take advantage of the measures. But the fact the decision lies with the businesses means the government hasn’t taken control and it isn’t socialism ;)
It's not really a choice,
Go bust trying to pay redundancy pay or take cash to pay the wages.
 
The standard of BEEF really has gone downhill lately.

When you two gonna start calling each other ****s?

brb bring back the politics thread to bring out the worst in these two ffs!
 
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It's not really a choice,
Go bust trying to pay redundancy pay or take cash to pay the wages.

I'm a socialist at heart but you've got me thinking... what was the alternative action they could've taken which you would've considered as not being socialist?
 
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The levels of stupid out there are astonishing.

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My Twitter delusion list is full of people still trying to claim it's a normal flu season or that this is no worse than flu.

They really are on another level
 
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