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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
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afcftw said:
My problem is on a professional basis I have to deal with a lot of **** management people in the NHS which always taints my personal experience of using them which has generally been good. I’ve also watched NHS staff let down family members on various occasions (also watched them do wonderful things and act with great compassion).

As with any very large organisation it’s expected that you get a bit of both!

But through personal circumstances I’ve also been able to watch how it is being run, the good and the bad and it’s totally changed my view on the organisation. Don’t get me wrong I still think there’s all sorts of failings in the nhs but I see the good things too and particularly during this outbreak it’s been a pleasure to watch how they’ve gone into action.
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Very good post <ok>

I can only speak from personal experience but that's what I've found it to be
 
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afcftw said:
My problem is on a professional basis I have to deal with a lot of **** management people in the NHS which always taints my personal experience of using them which has generally been good. I’ve also watched NHS staff let down family members on various occasions (also watched them do wonderful things and act with great compassion).

As with any very large organisation it’s expected that you get a bit of both!

But through personal circumstances I’ve also been able to watch how it is being run, the good and the bad and it’s totally changed my view on the organisation. Don’t get me wrong I still think there’s all sorts of failings in the nhs but I see the good things too and particularly during this outbreak it’s been a pleasure to watch how they’ve gone into action.
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I have to use the NHS a lot and I will say as modern technology has moved on, things have vastly improved, and I mean that from a non political sense. It's amazing how easy it is to order prescriptions, for them to automatically go to the chemist of your choice, and even book your own online appointments. Even more so in this crisis, that they now even offer telephone consultation, which I feel is great, because I've always believed a vast majority of patients do not need to be face to face consultation - nothing worse than having to walk into a surgery where you are likely to pick up a bug. I think the only bit that needs to improve is the communication between Consultants and GP. I find one or the other tends to be a little bit in the dark to what stage your medical care has advanced to, and are reliant on the patient filling in the gaps, although it eventually gets there and updated, normally many months after the event! The biggest downside for me is hospital appointments, but in the current circumstances that's to be expected as hospitals are overwhelmed with critical patients.
 
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Tel said:
Just put my firstborn to bed, sat there after she’d fallen asleep just listening to her breathing for a few minutes and appreciating the smaller, otherwise insignificant things that life offers us that we might take for granted. It was a nice moment for me... I hope this pandemic brings the best out of this country, we’ve lost our way these past few years, with divisions and hate... here’s hoping eh!
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I'm sure this country will unite together and do what it always does in a crisis - find a scapegoat and take it out on them. :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
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brb said:
I have to use the NHS a lot and I will say as modern technology has moved on, things have vastly improved, and I mean that from a non political sense. It's amazing how easy it is to order prescriptions, for them to automatically go to the chemist of your choice, and even book your own online appointments. Even more so in this crisis, that they now even offer telephone consultation, which I feel is great, because I've always believed a vast majority of patients do not need to be face to face consultation - nothing worse than having to walk into a surgery where you are likely to pick up a bug. I think the only bit that needs to improve is the communication between Consultants and GP. I find one or the other tends to be a little bit in the dark to what stage your medical care has advanced to, and are reliant on the patient filling in the gaps, although it eventually gets there and updated, normally many months after the event! The biggest downside for me is hospital appointments, but in the current circumstances that's to be expected as hospitals are overwhelmed with critical patients.
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I would add the biggest downside imo is the speed of diagnosis, the trial and error and often misdiagnosis, especially of serious illnesses (not talking about Covid). If that one area was improved it would save so many lives. But it costs too much to do that. Ironically it would cost less in the long term.
 
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brb said:
I have to use the NHS a lot and I will say as modern technology has moved on, things have vastly improved, and I mean that from a non political sense. It's amazing how easy it is to order prescriptions, for them to automatically go to the chemist of your choice, and even book your own online appointments. Even more so in this crisis, that they now even offer telephone consultation, which I feel is great, because I've always believed a vast majority of patients do not need to be face to face consultation - nothing worse than having to walk into a surgery where you are likely to pick up a bug. I think the only bit that needs to improve is the communication between Consultants and GP. I find one or the other tends to be a little bit in the dark to what stage your medical care has advanced to, and are reliant on the patient filling in the gaps, although it eventually gets there and updated, normally many months after the event! The biggest downside for me is hospital appointments, but in the current circumstances that's to be expected as hospitals are overwhelmed with critical patients.
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I know this won’t be a popular thing to say but it was Jeremy Hunt who really pushed the modernisation of the NHS in relation to technology. It’s was the biggest thing he pushed for as health minister.
 
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afcftw said:
I know this won’t be a popular thing to say but it was Jeremy Hunt who really pushed the modernisation of the NHS in relation to technology. It’s was the biggest thing he pushed for as health minister.
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I've no idea, but I'm happy with the technology side, albeit there are always things that can be done better, but I've got no complaints about it, and to a certain basic degree, you can even see your own medical record, not the indepth stuff obviously.
 
Treble said:
I would add the biggest downside imo is the speed of diagnosis, the trial and error and often misdiagnosis, especially of serious illnesses (not talking about Covid). If that one area was improved it would save so many lives. But it costs too much to do that. Ironically it would cost less in the long term.
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I can't complain about that from my personal experience, The very first time I was under during an op, they were taking stuff to be sent off for tests, I didn't even know they had done it, until the results came back when I next saw the consultant. I was reading up on it one time, and it basically said it was reliant on how good your consultant was, how efficient might be a better description, because sometimes stuff is getting missed that shouldn't.
 
brb said:
I have to use the NHS a lot and I will say as modern technology has moved on, things have vastly improved, and I mean that from a non political sense. It's amazing how easy it is to order prescriptions, for them to automatically go to the chemist of your choice, and even book your own online appointments. Even more so in this crisis, that they now even offer telephone consultation, which I feel is great, because I've always believed a vast majority of patients do not need to be face to face consultation - nothing worse than having to walk into a surgery where you are likely to pick up a bug. I think the only bit that needs to improve is the communication between Consultants and GP. I find one or the other tends to be a little bit in the dark to what stage your medical care has advanced to, and are reliant on the patient filling in the gaps, although it eventually gets there and updated, normally many months after the event! The biggest downside for me is hospital appointments, but in the current circumstances that's to be expected as hospitals are overwhelmed with critical patients.
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Get my prescriptions free now ... spin on that you ****ers :emoticon-0172-mooni

... move to Wales and you'd get it free whatever your age ...

[HASHTAG]#DoTheRightThingBorisYaCunt[/HASHTAG]
 
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afcftw said:
I know this won’t be a popular thing to say but it was Jeremy Hunt who really pushed the modernisation of the NHS in relation to technology. It’s was the biggest thing he pushed for as health minister.
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Only he had **** all experience of the NHS operationally and his career as health secretary was littered with **** ups. Including the massive data breach that he was warned about long before it happened. Not to mention the actual BMA giving him a vote of no confidence.
 
Where's Sisu tonight, he's like that bloody Chaos guy, 20 pages to everyone elses one <whistle>
 
brb said:
I can't complain about that from my personal experience, The very first time I was under during an op, they were taking stuff to be sent off for tests, I didn't even know they had done it, until the results came back when I next saw the consultant. I was reading up on it one time, and it basically said it was reliant on how good your consultant was, how efficient might be a better description, because sometimes stuff is getting missed that shouldn't.
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I was talking more about that initial consultation and investigation at the GPs. I think once you're in hospital it's different, but from my experience by that time it can be too late. UK is one of the worst at cancer recovery, and the main reason is the speed of diagnosis.
 
Treble said:
I was talking more about that initial consultation and investigation at the GPs. I think once you're in hospital it's different, but from my experience by that time it can be too late. UK is one of the worst at cancer recovery, and the main reason is the speed of diagnosis.
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I hear what you are saying and that maybe so, but I just think we expect too much from the NHS these days. I don't mean that in a dismissive way, because it is important what you say. I just think we are expecting the system and fellow humans to perform miracles quite often, it's got to the stage where we want them to play god - sadly the reality of life, as we are finding at this very moment is that we can't save everyone, yet we will look for someone to blame. But yes, like you, i'd want it diagnosed and followed up as soon has possible, human nature to want to survive.
 
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