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No, fell through as far as I know. What a surprise, not

I just checked and the deal was signed, U.S. troops started withdrawing. Taliban started taking the piss a bit and a few top U.S. brass have called them out on it, but the deal still exists. That was just a cursory skim and scan mind.
 
Obviously hindsight would be a wonderful thing, but hopefully if the virus has taught as anything it's the death count of complacency, otherwise we might as well agree with the HiaG's of this world <whistle>

By the middle of Feb we had a really good idea of what was happening,

By the beginning of march articles like this were circulating that made it clear the price of delaying
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

I emailed our HR on the 12th March asking them to advise all employees to work from home where possible and me and my staff took the decision to do just that. The governments choice to say only home quarantine if you have been abroad was just plain wrong and anyone with half a brain could see it. Meanwhile Boris was on the tele saying we could let it infect all of us and it would just sweep through no problem.

I know I'm anti-tory but really right now I'm just saddened that we thought we knew better and didnt prepare when time was so precious. Like I said before social isolation means each infected person infects less than one other person so the number infected falls, without it the number infected doubles every 2-3 days on the 12th March we had at least 10,000 infected, a week later it was at least 150,000. Just that week cost us dear.
 
I never realised, that the earliest identification of COVID 19 occured around the middle to the latter part of November 2019, even though China never reported it until December 31st to WHO. Italy reported a total of six infections on the 21st February 2020, although 3 of those infections were identified earlier but I don't have a timeline for them - but I do know Italy reported it's first two deaths on the 22nd Feb. So basically despite thousands of cases in China, we had at the very least a whole month to shut this virus down. I really think in pandemic situations we need to shut down the movement of people, in that I include your own citizens, to stop the infection where it is, don't let it travel home to pass hundreds of other people on the way. I know some may say that is impossible to achieve, but virtually the whole of Europe is in lockdown now, if we acted sooner, we recover sooner.


i knew
 
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Ffs, i just clicked on sky news, hoping the toll was in decline.

No such luck, it's risen again ffs.
 
Ffs, i just clicked on sky news, hoping the toll was in decline.

No such luck, it's risen again ffs.

even if only one person dies in the next two weeks, it will go up again. Or did you mean daily today is up?

It does look like the measures are doing the job somewhat at least. It doesn't currently look anything like the NHS will be overwhelmed.

Fingers crossed.
 
Anyone think, even when this is all over, this new Nightingale hospital is never going back to being the Excel centre?
 
Anyone think, even when this is all over, this new Nightingale hospital is never going back to being the Excel centre?

I think it will go back, but I hope they take a look at the capacity we ideally need going forward and build some purpose built new hospitals. Enough to meet the full need and not just enough to get by. They can tax us whatever it takes to do that as far as I am concerned
 
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The BBC, after making sure people made panic runs on the super markets and so on, is now busy fanning the flames of blame and recrimination already while the case numbers still rise..

BBC has gone a lot like CNN and other US media outlets, ie using talking heads on panels to make the spurious and untrue comments to drive an agenda (while BBC "technically" keeps its own hands clean)

Bringing panelists on to start blaming and fighting over this at this point is grossly irresponsible and something you expect on Fox or NBC or CNN, not BBC

God this is going to be such an unbearable **** show when cases become a low ebb (you know the media will all be blaming someone, and no one will give a **** about the actual citizens who are actually suffering while journalists for the Guardian Indo telegraph and mail all pick their ideologically targeted opponents)
Good post
 
What?

They are already ****ing overwhelmed.


In London they are, in large part thanks to Khan and his "oh go on trains, you'll be fine, it's all good" advice a few weeks ago.
Then he cut the available trains in half, making sure the remaining ones were packed.

Nationwide, there is still capacity is there not?

That 22 million he spent on woke art a while back would have been better used by the NHS.

The people we elect are pieces of ****
 
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I think it will go back, but I hope they take a look at the capacity we ideally need going forward and build some purpose built new hospitals. Enough to meet the full need and not just enough to get by. They can tax us whatever it takes to do that as far as I am concerned

Not so sure Nev, that place is going to see some terrible things over the next few months. I can't imagine after that it all being packed away and going back to hosting wedding shows and trade exhibits. Agree though, the Tories pledged new hospitals in the GE and this has shown they have to deliver on that promise.
 
In London they are, in large part thanks to Khan and his "oh go on trains, you'll be fine, it's all good" advice a few weeks ago.
Then he cut the available trains in half, making sure the remaining ones were packed.

Nationwide, there is still capacity is there not?

That 22 million he spent on woke art a while back would have been better used by the NHS.

The people we elect are pieces of ****
where do you live?
 
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