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Trump's finished mate. It was funny - sort of - while it lasted, but that joke is well and truly over.

So is the idea of one nation raining down hell on another nation. Either we change everything, all our values, our power structures, our entire way of life, or we're ****ed. There's no room for macho swagger after this ****'s over.

Blaming the Tiddly Winks, that won't work either. That's the old way of thinking, and it's failed, utterly.



"Trump's finished mate. It was funny - sort of - while it lasted, but that joke is well and truly over." By finished to do you mean a second term? If you do, then you might want to actually know something about where US politics is at, pin this, 100% Trump gets a second term. Democrats are having a civil war between dems and progressives.



"So is the idea of one nation raining down hell on another nation. Either we change everything, all our values, our power structures, our entire way of life, or we're ****ed. There's no room for macho swagger after this ****'s over."
^^ The Idea is dead is it, tell that to France and UK who launched cruise missiles at another country they are not at war with only last year. Look at Yemen too, another US UK abetted "raining down of hell on other nations" It's not been two decades since Iraq, and we're still doing in the ME what we were doing 100 years ago, mostly killing civilians and a few bad guys but overwhelmingly civilians and making 10s of millions homeless refugees

Us civilized Europeans just use militants and depots now to carry out inhumane crimes, we dont use our own armies these days.



"Either we change everything, all our values, our power structures, our entire way of life, or we're ****ed"
And how exactly would we go about that? because it would require we stopped being human and who defines the new way of life and how is it enforced?
It would require something akin a socialist revolution that promises such things, and we've seen those, and the over 100m dead people it produced. Channeling your Ash Sakar are you :bandit: People are very different, and don't all want the same things, and or, agree on how to achieve the same things even when the end goal is the same.

There will be many worse ups and downs than we personally have experienced, then we'll eventually be rubbed out by something, asteroid, solar event, geological mishap, something. Another chapter, a layer of strata, and nothing more. :)
 
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thing is that is meant for the extremely vulnerable group & as far as i can tell we don't fall into that category and if to many people get wrongly added to the list the ones who cannot leave the house will find the special delivery slots overwhelmed .

You know yourself best. From what you’ve described on here I don’t think anyone would begrudge you being a high priority case. Some people inevitably will cheat the system but I wouldn’t say you would be.
 
Sorry to butt in mate, but been reading the comments, contact Saisnbury's I'm pretty confident they will sort you out and open up a delivery slot for you. They just need to be made aware, generally they will be working on age, nothing ventured nothing gained, got to be done at times like this.
there website tells you to register on Gov.UK however that is for those who have been told to stay at home for 3 months .
 
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"Trump's finished mate. It was funny - sort of - while it lasted, but that joke is well and truly over." By finished to do you mean a second term? If you do, then you might want to actually know something about where US politics is at, pin this, 100% Trump gets a second term. Democrats are having a civil war between dems and progressives.



"So is the idea of one nation raining down hell on another nation. Either we change everything, all our values, our power structures, our entire way of life, or we're ****ed. There's no room for macho swagger after this ****'s over."
^^ The Idea is dead is it, tell that to France and UK who launched cruise missiles at another country they are not at war with only last year. Look at Yemen too, another US UK abetted "raining down of hell on other nations" It's not been two decades since Iraq, and we're still doing in the ME what we were doing 100 years ago, mostly killing civilians and a few bad guys but overwhelmingly civilians and making 10s of millions homeless refugees

Us civilized Europeans just use militants and depots now to carry out inhumane crimes, we dont use our own armies these days.



"Either we change everything, all our values, our power structures, our entire way of life, or we're ****ed"
And how exactly would we go about that? because it would require we stopped being human and who defines the new way of life and how is it enforced?
It would require something akin a socialist revolution that promises such things, and we've seen those, and the over 100m dead people it produced. Channeling your Ash Sakar are you :bandit: People are very different, and don't all want the same things, and or, agree on how to achieve the same things even when the end goal is the same.

There will be many worse ups and downs than we personally have experienced, then we'll eventually be rubbed out by something, asteroid, solar event, geological mishap, something. Another chapter, a layer of strata, and nothing more. :)



Yeah, not reading all that bruv. Got something to say, make it pithy is my advice.
 
Surprised you’re still going tbh mate.

The brewery is deemed to be an essential industry!

We're in a massive grey area; can't stop until told to stop but are kind of frowned on for keeping going.

I've dragged subbies down from Manchester/Liverpool this week to finish some flooring. Had to sort letters out saying they were allowed to work so they could find accommodation etc. They're ok as it goes, they prefer to be working than sat at home.

I'm just piecing a programme of works together of items that can be done to keep the project ticking over, this also keeps me busy. Got to drive every day now though as my own accommodation has shut down till this blows over. I expect brownie points!



Wanna know the irony in all this? (cue Alanis)

This new plant and processing plant is to mass produce.................................................Corona.
 
You’ve had the letter for a medical reason mate, act upon it.

The advice is for your own good and also to try and limit the stress on the system, as you’re patently in the group more likely to need hospitalisation if you contract it.

I know how you feel as I initially felt the same, until the virus started to appear locally and the risk therefore increased. Not worth it bro, stay at home.



I'm seeing out the week and then joining my kids on Easter 'holiday'.

Don't want to but feel I should. I'm one bed but it could be a bed that someone else badly needs, I get that.
 
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up to you matey. <ok>

Simply put, by "Trump is finished" do you mean Trump won't be getting a second term?


I'd be ****ing amazed if he did, even Americans aren't that stupid. And while Biden is a fairly crap candidate, he's a lot better than Hilary.

I've been wrong about this **** before though, loads of times. So let's put it another way; if Trump gets a 2nd term, America is finished.
 
I'd be ****ing amazed if he did, even Americans aren't that stupid. And while Biden is a fairly crap candidate, he's a lot better than Hilary.

I've been wrong about this **** before though, loads of times. So let's put it another way; if Trump gets a 2nd term, America is finished.

He’s come in a bit in the betting. Evens now from 11/10 a week or so ago. No matter how bad it gets here or there and no matter how much that’s driven by some shocking decision-making, I doubt it’ll harm Boris or Trump too much in the polls.
 
I'd be ****ing amazed if he did, even Americans aren't that stupid. And while Biden is a fairly crap candidate, he's a lot better than Hilary.

I've been wrong about this **** before though, loads of times. So let's put it another way; if Trump gets a 2nd term, America is finished.

I get your reasoning, I understand why you think that way. It's the media you consume. It's 90+% negative Trump media you consume. I read both, the truth is somewhere in the middle most times.

Given the past 3 years of impeachment joke, Russia collusion hoax, wall to wall negative media, his approval is 47.3, Obama who got nothing remotely like that negative coverage and all his scandals were largely swept under the liberal media rug (like giving serious weapons to Mexican drug cartels who largely run Mexico) and he was 47.9 approval.

given the margin of error, Obama and Bush 49.4 are within that margin, only Clinton 55% is well above that group (and he's a proven serial rapist who's untouchable)

Its funny, when Obama's program gave mexican cartels guns that were then used to kill border guards and americans as well as mexican politicians and civilians ect, it made almost no news internationally in the liberal media, if Trump did that.. wow.

anyhoo, **** politics, not going down that rabbit hole
 
I can't see the future, but I'll make a confident prediction; as a species we either heed this warning and change our ways, or we die.

I’m fairly sure I’m gonna die either way.

China need to lead the way and change their ways before any of us, they’re a disgusting nation with hygiene levels of sewer rats.
 
I get your reasoning, I understand why you think that way. It's the media you consume. It's 90+% negative Trump media you consume. I read both, the truth is somewhere in the middle most times.

Given the past 3 years of impeachment joke, Russia collusion hoax, wall to wall negative media, his approval is 47.3, Obama who got nothing remotely like that negative coverage and all his scandals were largely swept under the liberal media rug (like giving serious weapons to Mexican drug cartels who largely run Mexico) and he was 47.9 approval.

given the margin of error, Obama and Bush 49.4 are within that margin, only Clinton 55% is well above that group (and he's a proven serial rapist who's untouchable)

Its funny, when Obama's program gave mexican cartels guns that were then used to kill border guards and americans as well as mexican politicians and civilians ect, it made almost no news internationally in the liberal media, if Trump did that.. wow.

anyhoo, **** politics, not going down that rabbit hole

...and keep an open mind while watching both I see <laugh>
 
I'd be ****ing amazed if he did, even Americans aren't that stupid. And while Biden is a fairly crap candidate, he's a lot better than Hilary.

I've been wrong about this **** before though, loads of times. So let's put it another way; if Trump gets a 2nd term, America is finished.

I’m more confident than ever that Trump will get his second term.
 
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The brewery is deemed to be an essential industry!

We're in a massive grey area; can't stop until told to stop but are kind of frowned on for keeping going.

I've dragged subbies down from Manchester/Liverpool this week to finish some flooring. Had to sort letters out saying they were allowed to work so they could find accommodation etc. They're ok as it goes, they prefer to be working than sat at home.

I'm just piecing a programme of works together of items that can be done to keep the project ticking over, this also keeps me busy. Got to drive every day now though as my own accommodation has shut down till this blows over. I expect brownie points!



Wanna know the irony in all this? (cue Alanis)

This new plant and processing plant is to mass produce.................................................Corona.

<cheers>
 
He’s come in a bit in the betting. Evens now from 11/10 a week or so ago. No matter how bad it gets here or there and no matter how much that’s driven by some shocking decision-making, I doubt it’ll harm Boris or Trump too much in the polls.


At the moment, that does seem to be the case.

But while the lockdown and the virus might not last all that long in the great scheme of things, the shockwaves will be resonating for years. Maybe we'll go back to living the way we were before, raping the planet, not giving a **** about anyone or anything except ourselves, putting all our faith in money and posessions; it's up to us, all of us.
 
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