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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Feb 25, 2020.

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Boris...

  1. should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

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  2. let the bodies stack high

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  3. lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

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  1. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Please, was on dialysis and worked a 40 hour week, been transplanted and have very good egrf figures. Funnily enough it was a trial treatment for anti fungal medication that opened up solid organ transplant success rates. Big Pharma eh!
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I agree with the happy medium or what people prefer.

    Want to keep hybrid working 50:50 office and home. Sure my boss will allow it and it helps reduce carbon impact of company reducing travel. Stress/anxiety works both ways, some having it being in a risk filled environment like an office and others have it from being home.

    The digital world keeps people connected, however we also need close contact with people...its how you find that personal balance thats key
     
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    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    Lawyer's are already in place to help the likes of me dude because people of all walks of life don't agree with no jab no job no jab no socialising no jab no green pass <laugh>
     
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    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that's why my father had kidney failure......big pharma hey
     
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  5. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Sure it wasn't age or comorbidities that had a contributing factor in all of this.eh. As the average age of renal patient in the UK is about 70, seems strange that he was left without dialysis. I would question the renal consultants on this, did two years on a combination of HHD and Peritoneal Dialysis before my donor was ready to go through surgery.

    Normal limits on fluid intake vary on patient to patient, mine was 750ml per day, nocturnal HHD would have doubled this but I liked the freedom of my treatment modes gave me.
     
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    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    He had all the gear in the house after the first treatment on the renal ward after coming out of icu which he was in for over a month

    one bedroom in my parents was full of medical **** for him and my mother had to have delivered by the lorry load.

    He wasn't old aged and never abused his body with crap food alcohol or cigarettes.

    Not sure of the arthritis drug he was on now off the top of my head but the side effects are kidney disease which was life changing for him and my family.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Renal failure is not fun, thats for sure. But treatment is top notch on the NHS.

    Unfortunately nature sets the kidney as one of the most important organs in the body, each functioning at 50% capacity and over time they wear out. Key role in filtering waste and fluids from the body, producing EPO for production of red cells and loads of other functions. Like cancer, there is not one form of renal failure. Type 1/2 diabetes, uncontrolled hypertension and genetic conditions all fall under that umbrella when folk have reduced renal function

    May well have had many of the recently discovered conditions, its a silent disease/condition. Unless you are checking BP on a regular basis you may never know you had an issue, was personally running half marathons and playing football twice a week with renal function as low as 8% when a blood test picked up an issue.

    Your loss is sad, but your comment was barbed with some sort of future warning for me so I refrained from what I normally would have posted in response
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    1.8 billion jabs worldwide.

    'My ChiLD ISn't GeTTiNg InvOLvEd wITh a TrIaL TreATmEnT :confused:
     
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    brb CR250

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    You have to be so careful of arthritis drugs. The side effects are noticeable but you have to be aware of them, because they will creep up on you over the course of time. All warnings that are in the leaflets and well documented. The problem is if you've been taking the drugs for a few years, sometimes people forget to relate them to medical conditions that later occur, that's when you need your GP to be on the ball.
     
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    brb CR250

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    and you will also know people can function perfectly normally with one kidney, with absolutely no change in lifestyle or need to constantly be checking your BP. You are talking about the most extreme cases. As for the over 70's comment, Guys hospital has a childrens ward specialising in renal failure, so it's not just limited to old people.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I do know that indeed, in fact my donor has just one now. As for not changing lifestyle, well that's not 100% correct from my and my donors experience. A healthy balanced diet and exercise will and is heavily advised - alcohol is not banned, but again within guidelines. Which is great as we celebrate out 8th year transplanted together playing golf and drinking early October up in Newcatle for the weekend <cheers>

    Yes, kids, young adults and people in their 30's suffer from renal failure, mainly due to genetic conditions. The average age of renal patient in the UK is high as the function of the kidney will naturally decline over time and other health conditions put pressure on your organs.

    Unfortunately the 3m in the UK classed as having CKD (function below 59%), the majority are from hypertension, type 1/2 diabetes. Some from other medical conditions they are unable to control, or poor diet and lifestyle.
     
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    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Gotta make your choice, live with the pain for the rest of your life, or risk death. My mum would rather risk death, got put on some drug I don't know the name of, special **** that had to be delivered, signed for and kept in the fridge at a set temp. She loved it, trouble is she got a cancerous lump after a few months and they stopped her from having it. She's not happy about that, I think she'd rather have the drug and the cancer because it gives her most of her life back.
     
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    I'll repeat what I said. People can live perfectly normal lives with one kidney, that require no changes in lifestyle and no constant monitoring of BP. There will be monitoring for a childs life for a large period of it, but that will cease as an adult. Same as there will be monitoring after a transplant. When I read what you write, you make it sound like a lifetime condition, that is not true, with the exception of one fact, you have one kidney less than everyone else. There are some extreme conditions that do affect people for their whole life, but I'm merely highlighting your comments I feel are somewhat misleading, because you are only focusing on the most extreme cases.

    Edit: as for guidelines on alcohol, in the situation I'm highlighting, it is no different from that of a person with two kidneys.
     
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    Yup, I don't dispute that Ern. Difficult choices.
     
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    Just been watching a vid on people taking a horse drug to treat Covid. Now I'm all for these alternative views but I don't get the anti vax people who's whole point is based on testing or lack of then jumping on taking horse medication?
     
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    No fking skin off my nose what happens with your children dude......that's you and your partners choice if you want them to have it even though they don't need it but remember what the science said only a week or so ago.......they did warn you.

    So roll that dice mother fkr
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Renal failure is a lifetime condition, same as transplant. It is not a cure, just 24hrs a day dialysis with a heavy cocktail of medication to suppress the immune system and prevent organ rejection.

    We seem to have differing opinions, mine based on first hand personal experience. If you have family suffering with this then I wish them well.
     
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    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    It's not all anti vaxx that will take this or anything else for that matter but the yanks have got reasons to believe in the science and doctors who are prescribing it ......its totally legal and used in humans and not just animals.


    Looking at Joe rogan it fking works and all lol
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    JR could just be coincidence, I just can't see how how any anti vax person can make that leap. Yeah I get it's not every anti vax person but there seems to be a lot involved.
     
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    I've already said except extreme conditions. Renal failure is NOT a lifetime condition, if you still have one normal perfectly functioning kidney. I'll repeat for a third time, they can live a perfectly normal life, require NO change in their diet or drinking, none more so than is set in guidelines for a person with two kidneys. The only differing opinion here is me giving you some alternative facts. I'm sorry I'm not playing the sympathy card for you.
     
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