Coronavirus

[Solid Air]

Pandemic plan in place, yeah right, did you actually believe that one then.

I'll say it again, no one knew what to do. Pandemics were the things of the dark ages, like the plague, the great fire of london, all stuff in history books. As I said above, even I didn't believe it, but I do expect obviously the government to take a tad more responsibility than me.

Anyway, where was the opposition in all this, which is something else I touched on, it shouldn't be left to a ruling government party to deal with, we need an independent medical body, preferably a world wide one, that rules on such situations, made up of the worlds most intelligent people.

We've learned nothing, other than how to point fingers, how to play politics with people's lives. If they didn't lose a love one, all people are interested in is what side of the political fence they sit. That's why politics needs to be taken out of it.

Thats not strictly true though . We and the rest of Europe may not have taken the threat seriously but they did in Asia due to their experience with Sars & Swine Flu which hit them far harder than here . That experience meant they already had structures like test & trace in place and they did put in strict border controls . This meant they were able to deal with the threat much easier than Europe .

 

[Big Ern]

Yeah I reckon you’d have asked for a moratorium on medicine if you’d have been gasping for breath last year.

No respirator and drugs for me, this is natures way, I’m thinking of the planet.

Get in the ****ing bin.

So give me your plan then? Hope everyone acts responsibly?

 

[aberdude]

So give me your plan then? Hope everyone acts responsibly?

Sing happy birthday twice when washing hands was a great plan

But the swim in the village pond will never leave my mind for the rest of my life.........tragically people have listened and adhered to this non logical nonsense.

A tragic comedy indeed

 

[Tobes]

So give me your plan then? Hope everyone acts responsibly?

You do realise that we’ve actually lived through this don’t you?

The nations who locked down their borders and enforced strict lockdowns had the best results in terms of controlling the virus and thus saving loss of life, to the point where a vaccine arrived.

Herd immunity has never been achieved without a vaccine.

Doing **** all and letting nature do its thing wouldn’t have figured in my plan, but I’m not a sociopath.

 

[brb]

Thats not strictly true though . We and the rest of Europe may not have taken the threat seriously but they did in Asia due to their experience with Sars & Swine Flu which hit them far harder than here . That experience meant they already had structures like test & trace in place and they did put in strict border controls . This meant they were able to deal with the threat much easier than Europe .

True.

 

[brb]

He’s the same bloke who called COVID nothing but a bad cold, and labelled the Italians as lazy bastards for going into lockdown btw.

I didn't know none of that tbph. I didn't even know the name until I looked him up, then only remembered him as some guy off the TV the other half use to watch.

 

[PINKIE]

Thats not strictly true though . We and the rest of Europe may not have taken the threat seriously but they did in Asia due to their experience with Sars & Swine Flu which hit them far harder than here . That experience meant they already had structures like test & trace in place and they did put in strict border controls . This meant they were able to deal with the threat much easier than Europe .

Pandemic planning is in place in some parts of the world, so it’s not like we were dealing with an unknown quantity.

I mentioned earlier in the thread, but the UK also has experience of dealing with highly infectious diseases that can break out to cause pandemics

TheNational Risk Register of Civil Emergencies (NRR) identifies that emerging infectious diseases could also cause large numbers of people to become ill. The UK has experience of managing cases of high consequence infectious diseases (HCIDs) and in recent years has managed confirmed cases of Lassa fever, Ebola, MERS and monkeypox."

The idea that the Govt should be absolved of any responsibility because it was a novel incident doesn’t wash. There were plenty of examples of how to manage a pandemic

Boris either chose to ignore it all or was simply absent from the decision making process. Either way, it was a complete dereliction of duty

 

[PINKIE]

We cull everything else we can if it threatens its environment through over-population, and we've managed to intervene in nature doing the same to us. Need to let nature do it's job before it solves the human problem on a permanent basis, and in favour of cockroaches.

So cull the old and the sick then. Sure you don’t want to add in any particular ethnic groups whilst you’re at it ?

 

[Big Ern]

So cull the old and the sick then. Sure you don’t want to add in any particular ethnic groups whilst you’re at it ?

I wouldn't be doing the culling, I'm leaving it to nature.

 

[PINKIE]

I wouldn't be doing the culling, I'm leaving it to nature.

So floods in Bangladesh, drought in Somalia etc. We just leave nature to kill the people there rather than intervening ?

What about the wildfires in California, just let them burn and hope they reduce the population a bit more ?

I agree that these things probably will kill a lot more people in the coming years due to climate change, but I’m not advocating that we ‘let it rip’ in Order to control population

 

[BobbyD]

Yeah but Boris' character is a clown, Cummings knows that, so he went character assassination on him. Much the same as you have, 'fat numpty.'

Like I said earlier, not too many people if any, did take the virus seriously at the start. It had never occurred in our lifetime before, we really didn't know what to do, none of us did.

It's a bit like if a meteor comes to hit the Earth, are we prepared, would we know what to do. No, we wouldn't have a clue, no one in the world would. It would just occur and we'd all be gone. Should I blame Boris for that too.

Going to have to disagree here brb. We were the worst performing country and we've never ever closed our borders on this island. Australia eventually managed to do it and New Zealand did it at the start.

Anyway, fortunately, boris is a chancer so we have a vaccine and we're doing slightly better now but who knows how this will play out with the indian variant having a jolly.

 

[Edelman]

Maybe if he hadn’t have swerved the first 5 COBRA meetings on the subject and spent 2 weeks in Feb on holiday, he’d have possibly grasped the severity of the issue, just a thought like.

Project Fear

 

[Edelman]

The plan was in place in 2011 mate.

You might have thought somebody in Govt would have known that.

There was meetings in 2016 to discuss the eventuality of a plan to combat a Pandemic.
It was brushed aside and filed under scare stories .
This mistake will never be made again I'm sure

 

[Big Ern]

So floods in Bangladesh, drought in Somalia etc. We just leave nature to kill the people there rather than intervening ?

What about the wildfires in California, just let them burn and hope they reduce the population a bit more ?

I agree that these things probably will kill a lot more people in the coming years due to climate change, but I’m not advocating that we ‘let it rip’ in Order to control population

What a ******ed argument, since when have we used medicine to fight fires?

 

[Tobes]

****ing lol

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[PINKIE]

What a ******ed argument, since when have we used medicine to fight fires?

You were talking about letting nature do the culling mate.

I'm just wondering at what point do you decide to intervene when it comes to saving lives.

 

[SaintsForTheWin]

So floods in Bangladesh, drought in Somalia etc. We just leave nature to kill the people there rather than intervening ?

What about the wildfires in California, just let them burn and hope they reduce the population a bit more ?

I agree that these things probably will kill a lot more people in the coming years due to climate change, but I’m not advocating that we ‘let it rip’ in Order to control population

if you want to play your part, maybe stop driving round your planet destroyer of a car

 

[PINKIE]

if you want to play your part, maybe stop driving round your planet destroyer of a car

Nah I'm with Ern, cull the sick and elderly and let us young bucks drive around in SUVs

 

[SaintsForTheWin]

Nah I'm with Ern, cull the sick and elderly and let us young bucks drive around in SUVs

Young?

 

[PINKIE]

Young?

Compared to Ern