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Re catching COVID Twice and cases of rare reinfection.

Even if immunity lasted for 6 months (still not one case of anyone getting it a second time and being in any danger, zero), it's still better than locking down to prevent the spread.
Soon as a month lockdown is lifted, the exact same thing will happen in december.. what then?

This would be in line with Sweden's low deathrate with zero mental lockdowns (plus they avoided thousands of deaths, untreated cancers, undiagnosed cancers and thousands of other diseases, heart conditions, diabetes and so on, no masses subjected to life destroying policies that will destroy whole families and fuel alcoholism, homelessness, crime, depression and suicide for the next decade in the UK and much of the world

The national health fallout will be a long lasting legacy of the, I'll say it, criminal advice by SAGE, who's modeling was utter bullshit, and it doesn't even address the fallout from their modeling.

The UN has already warned global poverty is doubled.

Also the faux morality of it all, there are people around the world in their millions who's bare minimum calorie intake has been slashed and they are close to starvation due to the economic shutdowns

Those screaming for lockdowns because "otherwise you want to kill nana" willfully ignore all of the other extremely negative results that are actually happening.



https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-catch-twice/
A few readers have asked us whether you can catch Covid-19 twice. This follows reports at the end of February that a Japanese woman had tested positive a second time. A recent article in the Daily Mail and two articles in the Sun also suggested in their headlines and their early paragraphs that this might be the case.

The evidence so far shows that catching the disease twice is very rare, and that most infected people recover and develop immunity against it. However, it is not yet clear how long this immunity will last.

When a journalist raised the case of the woman in Japan at the Prime Minister’s press conference on 16 March, the Chief Scientific Advisor, Sir Patrick Vallance said: “In any infectious disease there are cases where people can catch something again. They’re rare. There’s nothing to suggest that this is a common occurrence in this disease, but we are learning as we go along.”

A report from the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on 25 March says, “there is emerging evidence from early studies suggesting that individuals develop antibodies after infection and are likely to be immune from reinfection in the short term”.

During a live question-and-answer session on 25 March, Professor Jimmy Whitworth from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said: “There have been a few isolated examples where [reinfection] has been reported. That people were positive, then they were negative, then they were positive again.

“It looks like, in the great majority of cases, this doesn’t happen. That people get infected once. My suspicion is that those discrepant test results that we get are to do with, actually, the sampling. It’s not straightforward to take a sample from the back of the throat and make sure you catch virus every time. So I suspect it’s a technical issue, rather than repeat infection… It looks like you are immune for getting it again, but for how long, we don’t know yet.”


The articles in the Daily Mail and the Sun cite several reports from China, which describe a small number of recovered Covid-19 patients testing positive for the disease again.

As the Mail and Sun articles say, based on local reports, the patients who tested positive twice in Wuhan showed no symptoms the second time and none apparently passed the disease to others.

The same was true of a group of patients who tested positive twice in Guangdong province. The Sun quotes a doctor involved in the research saying the results were in the “weak positive” range, suggesting that the virus may no longer have been active. He also added that there may have been problems with sampling.

The Mail quotes the director of Wuhan’s Tongji Hospital, Wang Wei, saying: “It’s possible that these recovered patients tested negative before because of false results... The accuracy of a nucleic acid test is 30 to 50 per cent.”

In short, these cases do not show that it is common for people to contract Covid-19 twice, as it is possible that the virus had not yet left these patients’ bodies after their first infection.
 
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Re catching COVID Twice and cases of rare reinfection.

Even if immunity lasted for 6 months (still not one case of anyone getting it a second time and being in any danger, zero), it's still better than locking down to prevent the spread.
Soon as a month lockdown is lifted, the exact same thing will happen in december.. what then?

This would be in line with Sweden's low deathrate with zero mental lockdowns (plus they avoided thousands of deaths, untreated cancers, undiagnosed cancers and thousands of other diseases, heart conditions, diabetes and so on, no masses subjected to life destroying policies that will destroy whole families and fuel alcoholism, homelessness, crime, depression and suicide for the next decade in the UK and much of the world

The national health fallout will be a long lasting legacy of the, I'll say it, criminal advice by SAGE, who's modeling was utter bullshit, and it doesn't even address the fallout from their modeling.

The UN has already warned global poverty is doubled.

Also the faux morality of it all, there are people around the world in their millions who's bare minimum calorie intake has been slashed and they are close to starvation due to the economic shutdowns

Those screaming for lockdowns because "otherwise you want to kill nana" willfully ignore all of the other extremely negative results that are actually happening.



https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-catch-twice/
A few readers have asked us whether you can catch Covid-19 twice. This follows reports at the end of February that a Japanese woman had tested positive a second time. A recent article in the Daily Mail and two articles in the Sun also suggested in their headlines and their early paragraphs that this might be the case.

The evidence so far shows that catching the disease twice is very rare, and that most infected people recover and develop immunity against it. However, it is not yet clear how long this immunity will last.

When a journalist raised the case of the woman in Japan at the Prime Minister’s press conference on 16 March, the Chief Scientific Advisor, Sir Patrick Vallance said: “In any infectious disease there are cases where people can catch something again. They’re rare. There’s nothing to suggest that this is a common occurrence in this disease, but we are learning as we go along.”

A report from the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on 25 March says, “there is emerging evidence from early studies suggesting that individuals develop antibodies after infection and are likely to be immune from reinfection in the short term”.

During a live question-and-answer session on 25 March, Professor Jimmy Whitworth from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said: “There have been a few isolated examples where [reinfection] has been reported. That people were positive, then they were negative, then they were positive again.

“It looks like, in the great majority of cases, this doesn’t happen. That people get infected once. My suspicion is that those discrepant test results that we get are to do with, actually, the sampling. It’s not straightforward to take a sample from the back of the throat and make sure you catch virus every time. So I suspect it’s a technical issue, rather than repeat infection… It looks like you are immune for getting it again, but for how long, we don’t know yet.”


The articles in the Daily Mail and the Sun cite several reports from China, which describe a small number of recovered Covid-19 patients testing positive for the disease again.

As the Mail and Sun articles say, based on local reports, the patients who tested positive twice in Wuhan showed no symptoms the second time and none apparently passed the disease to others.

The same was true of a group of patients who tested positive twice in Guangdong province. The Sun quotes a doctor involved in the research saying the results were in the “weak positive” range, suggesting that the virus may no longer have been active. He also added that there may have been problems with sampling.

The Mail quotes the director of Wuhan’s Tongji Hospital, Wang Wei, saying: “It’s possible that these recovered patients tested negative before because of false results... The accuracy of a nucleic acid test is 30 to 50 per cent.”

In short, these cases do not show that it is common for people to contract Covid-19 twice, as it is possible that the virus had not yet left these patients’ bodies after their first infection.
both more serious and less serious second cases have been recorded . You need to check the up to date info .
 
Re catching COVID Twice and cases of rare reinfection.

Even if immunity lasted for 6 months (still not one case of anyone getting it a second time and being in any danger, zero), it's still better than locking down to prevent the spread.
Soon as a month lockdown is lifted, the exact same thing will happen in december.. what then?

This would be in line with Sweden's low deathrate with zero mental lockdowns (plus they avoided thousands of deaths, untreated cancers, undiagnosed cancers and thousands of other diseases, heart conditions, diabetes and so on, no masses subjected to life destroying policies that will destroy whole families and fuel alcoholism, homelessness, crime, depression and suicide for the next decade in the UK and much of the world

The national health fallout will be a long lasting legacy of the, I'll say it, criminal advice by SAGE, who's modeling was utter bullshit, and it doesn't even address the fallout from their modeling.

The UN has already warned global poverty is doubled.

Also the faux morality of it all, there are people around the world in their millions who's bare minimum calorie intake has been slashed and they are close to starvation due to the economic shutdowns

Those screaming for lockdowns because "otherwise you want to kill nana" willfully ignore all of the other extremely negative results that are actually happening.



https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-catch-twice/
A few readers have asked us whether you can catch Covid-19 twice. This follows reports at the end of February that a Japanese woman had tested positive a second time. A recent article in the Daily Mail and two articles in the Sun also suggested in their headlines and their early paragraphs that this might be the case.

The evidence so far shows that catching the disease twice is very rare, and that most infected people recover and develop immunity against it. However, it is not yet clear how long this immunity will last.

When a journalist raised the case of the woman in Japan at the Prime Minister’s press conference on 16 March, the Chief Scientific Advisor, Sir Patrick Vallance said: “In any infectious disease there are cases where people can catch something again. They’re rare. There’s nothing to suggest that this is a common occurrence in this disease, but we are learning as we go along.”

A report from the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on 25 March says, “there is emerging evidence from early studies suggesting that individuals develop antibodies after infection and are likely to be immune from reinfection in the short term”.

During a live question-and-answer session on 25 March, Professor Jimmy Whitworth from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said: “There have been a few isolated examples where [reinfection] has been reported. That people were positive, then they were negative, then they were positive again.

“It looks like, in the great majority of cases, this doesn’t happen. That people get infected once. My suspicion is that those discrepant test results that we get are to do with, actually, the sampling. It’s not straightforward to take a sample from the back of the throat and make sure you catch virus every time. So I suspect it’s a technical issue, rather than repeat infection… It looks like you are immune for getting it again, but for how long, we don’t know yet.”


The articles in the Daily Mail and the Sun cite several reports from China, which describe a small number of recovered Covid-19 patients testing positive for the disease again.

As the Mail and Sun articles say, based on local reports, the patients who tested positive twice in Wuhan showed no symptoms the second time and none apparently passed the disease to others.

The same was true of a group of patients who tested positive twice in Guangdong province. The Sun quotes a doctor involved in the research saying the results were in the “weak positive” range, suggesting that the virus may no longer have been active. He also added that there may have been problems with sampling.

The Mail quotes the director of Wuhan’s Tongji Hospital, Wang Wei, saying: “It’s possible that these recovered patients tested negative before because of false results... The accuracy of a nucleic acid test is 30 to 50 per cent.”

In short, these cases do not show that it is common for people to contract Covid-19 twice, as it is possible that the virus had not yet left these patients’ bodies after their first infection.

Your information is way out of date. Ages ago I posted the initial study that suggested immunity lasts about 3 months. That's now also been supported by a follow up study.
 
Re catching COVID Twice and cases of rare reinfection.

Even if immunity lasted for 6 months (still not one case of anyone getting it a second time and being in any danger, zero), it's still better than locking down to prevent the spread.
Soon as a month lockdown is lifted, the exact same thing will happen in december.. what then?

This would be in line with Sweden's low deathrate with zero mental lockdowns (plus they avoided thousands of deaths, untreated cancers, undiagnosed cancers and thousands of other diseases, heart conditions, diabetes and so on, no masses subjected to life destroying policies that will destroy whole families and fuel alcoholism, homelessness, crime, depression and suicide for the next decade in the UK and much of the world

The national health fallout will be a long lasting legacy of the, I'll say it, criminal advice by SAGE, who's modeling was utter bullshit, and it doesn't even address the fallout from their modeling.

The UN has already warned global poverty is doubled.

Also the faux morality of it all, there are people around the world in their millions who's bare minimum calorie intake has been slashed and they are close to starvation due to the economic shutdowns

Those screaming for lockdowns because "otherwise you want to kill nana" willfully ignore all of the other extremely negative results that are actually happening.



https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-catch-twice/
A few readers have asked us whether you can catch Covid-19 twice. This follows reports at the end of February that a Japanese woman had tested positive a second time. A recent article in the Daily Mail and two articles in the Sun also suggested in their headlines and their early paragraphs that this might be the case.

The evidence so far shows that catching the disease twice is very rare, and that most infected people recover and develop immunity against it. However, it is not yet clear how long this immunity will last.

When a journalist raised the case of the woman in Japan at the Prime Minister’s press conference on 16 March, the Chief Scientific Advisor, Sir Patrick Vallance said: “In any infectious disease there are cases where people can catch something again. They’re rare. There’s nothing to suggest that this is a common occurrence in this disease, but we are learning as we go along.”

A report from the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention on 25 March says, “there is emerging evidence from early studies suggesting that individuals develop antibodies after infection and are likely to be immune from reinfection in the short term”.

During a live question-and-answer session on 25 March, Professor Jimmy Whitworth from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said: “There have been a few isolated examples where [reinfection] has been reported. That people were positive, then they were negative, then they were positive again.

“It looks like, in the great majority of cases, this doesn’t happen. That people get infected once. My suspicion is that those discrepant test results that we get are to do with, actually, the sampling. It’s not straightforward to take a sample from the back of the throat and make sure you catch virus every time. So I suspect it’s a technical issue, rather than repeat infection… It looks like you are immune for getting it again, but for how long, we don’t know yet.”


The articles in the Daily Mail and the Sun cite several reports from China, which describe a small number of recovered Covid-19 patients testing positive for the disease again.

As the Mail and Sun articles say, based on local reports, the patients who tested positive twice in Wuhan showed no symptoms the second time and none apparently passed the disease to others.

The same was true of a group of patients who tested positive twice in Guangdong province. The Sun quotes a doctor involved in the research saying the results were in the “weak positive” range, suggesting that the virus may no longer have been active. He also added that there may have been problems with sampling.

The Mail quotes the director of Wuhan’s Tongji Hospital, Wang Wei, saying: “It’s possible that these recovered patients tested negative before because of false results... The accuracy of a nucleic acid test is 30 to 50 per cent.”

In short, these cases do not show that it is common for people to contract Covid-19 twice, as it is possible that the virus had not yet left these patients’ bodies after their first infection.
Reinfection is still rare, but to say the 2nd bout is lessened and is of no danger or is merely the original infection remaining dormant is plain wrong

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30783-0/fulltext

Also, the most recent mass antibody test done in the U.K., showed that those with antibodies had dropped by 26% in 3 months.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54696873

As for SAGE and it’s modelling, they predicted that the death rate would be circa 200 a day by mid November when they called for a 2 week ‘circuit break’ lockdown on the 23rd of September. The rate hit over 300 per day last week, circa 3 weeks before their model suggested we’d be at 200+. But criminal or something.
 
Farage to form an Anti-Lockdown party .... guy is like a persistent cold sore ..... constantly coming back but little more than a minor infection that's easily remedied once you see it for what it is <laugh>
He is just a publicity seeking frog faced twat with no integrity, a complete charlatan who shouldn't be pissed on if he was on fire.
 
Farage to form an Anti-Lockdown party .... guy is like a persistent cold sore ..... constantly coming back but little more than a minor infection that's easily remedied once you see it for what it is <laugh>
He’s such an opportunist grifting twat. He’s been on about changing the name of his party for about 6 months, as the BP became somewhat pointless post January when we left the EU.

As his subscribers - note subscribers, as his Limited company isn’t like a standard party that has members and voting rights - were dropping off, but he needed a new grift. Eh voila he’s found one, and he’ll try and rake in cash from the gullible with his latest populist grift.
 
2nd Lockdown ode
Don’t blame Boris and his men for locking us away,*
Think instead of the all night raves, that happened every day,
Think back to all those marches, when black lives mattered most,
And the crowded summer beaches, all along the coast.
Think back to newsreel funerals where a hundred more have come,
And street gatherings of the selfish, as stupid stood next to dumb,
Some say rules are made to be broken, but their actions have a cost,
And for every thoughtless action, someone’s life just might be lost.
So don’t look to those in authority, when blame you seek to lay,
We’re locked up because the selfish, have ignored rules every day,
So in this coming month or so, don’t rant or rave or shout,
Just do as you’re bloomin’ told, and burn this virus out!


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I am NOT a Tory , I have simply copied this from somewhere else .
 
2nd Lockdown ode
Don’t blame Boris and his men for locking us away,*
Think instead of the all night raves, that happened every day,
Think back to all those marches, when black lives mattered most,
And the crowded summer beaches, all along the coast.
Think back to newsreel funerals where a hundred more have come,
And street gatherings of the selfish, as stupid stood next to dumb,
Some say rules are made to be broken, but their actions have a cost,
And for every thoughtless action, someone’s life just might be lost.
So don’t look to those in authority, when blame you seek to lay,
We’re locked up because the selfish, have ignored rules every day,
So in this coming month or so, don’t rant or rave or shout,
Just do as you’re bloomin’ told, and burn this virus out!


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I am NOT a Tory , I have simply copied this from somewhere else .


It's not ****ing Shakespeare mate, is it?
 
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