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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. Butthuber

    Butthuber Well-Known Member

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    The idea is to bring down the middle class ! There will be a 2nd wave (has never happened before) which will lead to the total destruction of most of the economy. We will be dependent on the state, total surveillance and they try to achieve that until 2030. The virus is the best invention to make that scenrio happen. Divide et impera - that is why the BLM is forced upon us why Greta / Extinction Rebellion has been setup - just read your 1984 & Brave New World again and you will see what is happening.
     
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  2. Butthuber

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    You do not have to believe that of course but why shooting the messanger - just look up all the information I have provided and find out for yourself. My "awakening" dates back into 2008 when the subprime crisis almost ripped up the system back then. You will have to open up your eyes or you will be one of the first losers.
     
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    Nope...still not convinced

    There were all sorts of crackpot conspiracy theories flying around in 2008 too

    Facebook is already losing advertising revenue as some big businesses realise that social media is being manipulated by those who have their own negative agendas

    I appreciate that you haven't personally written this crap but believing it is almost as bad

    I've dealt with many of the world's largest investors - including names like Blackrock and Fidelity - over the last 15 years in my role as an investor relations professional for a number of UK plcs and all of those investors want to see a vibrant and free world economy, as do the majority of the world's governments
     
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    Medically speaking there is a chance of a second wave, though we have it in our own hands to stop it - and such a thing as a second wave has happened before in previous pandemics. It is likely that the World will not go back to 'normal' - but is it really normal that people consider it their right to fly 6-7 times per year for prices which are cheaper than the train. I look up now and see clear skies, and the possibility that some countries may be in danger of actually achieving their Co2 reduction levels for the year - so the Cornavirus has brought some good with it - some things which would be worth keeping. It has also shown us that we cannot be dependent on Worldwide supply chains for essentials such as medicine. That the neo liberal model has failed. Yes the state may play a bigger role in future - but what is the state other than you and I ? I have read some of the documents you refer to and yes, there could be changes - we need to move towards a sustainable post growth society which accepts that what is needed in the future is not more growth, but rather a more equitable distribution of what we produce. Subsequent to this crisis, I at least hope that help packages will be tied to environmental performance. I see from these documents a commitment to a sustainable future - and, maybe Covid 19 can function as a kind of catalyst which moves us closer in that direction. I do not however see anything in these articles implying a conspiratorial plan designed to destroy the middles classes and further concentrate wealth to a minority at the top - nor do I see anything which implies that the present crisis was an engineered hoax towards those ends.
     
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  6. Butthuber

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    Of course a lot of misleading information can be found in the internet but it takes some time to get the right orientation. This changes your life completely as you found out that media & politians pretended a different life - it is an almost perfect illusion.

    I am an Economist who understood that the world is ruled by mighty people using the democracy as a facade. Obviously you are sceptical even though I have provided several links that give a lot of answers.

    Look up the following:

    - ID2020
    - Then Known-Traveller-Digital-Identity (will start in 9 months when using a train from St. Pancras to France and vice versa)
    - EVENT 201
    - EU vaccination schedule 2022

    All this is officially documented and I do not mean to persuade you since it is up to you. You will only have to invest a couple of hours and decide for yourself. No conspiracy (that term was invented by the CIA) just common sense.
     
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  7. Butthuber

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    Do you honestly believe the narrative of CO2 and all that other nonsense made up by the likes of Al Gore and his Greenpeace friend sponsoring Greta & Col. ? Do you think that NGO´s are not working in the interest of very, very rich people such as Sorros, Gates et al. ? We like to believe that some benevolent Billionares are trying to save the world for us.

    You are answering my posts but did not read the information I provided. Read the material first without any prejudice. If you do have questions about that stuff I am willing to inform.
     
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    I am fully aware of the texts which you have provided but have come to different conclusions. When you claim Covid 19 to be a hoax then you need to provide some medical evidence for that claim - do you deny the Worldwide death figure of close to half a million ? Are you going to simply reply that 'they would have died anyway' ? Because that is, quite simply, not the case. Are you also trying to tell me that the theme of global warming is also a hoax ? Because that appears to be the case with the use of the phrase 'narrative of Co2 and all that other nonsense'.
     
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    I know someone who genuinely believes there is some massive ***** ring running the world, including the royal family! She provides us all with endless amusement at crackpot theories. Please tell me you don't also believe this..!
     
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    Butthuber has your account been hacked? No posts for 4 months and then this lot? Seriously?
     
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    Not much football recently and I do have other things to do. The restart for our team has been rather disappoiting even though I honestly believe that we do have 2 of the most gifted players in our league.
     
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  12. Butthuber

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    Well mate you just don´t want to talk about reality and call people crazy who do have knowledge about things you will never have thought of. Did you spend a minute about the official documents I provided ? Stay in your world and trust media - they call it supervised thinking.
     
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    Leicester facing ‘local lockdown’ as new cases surge there. Unfortunately the government hasn’t put any legislation in place to make this happen.
     
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    Zero deaths for last two days, and single figure new cases, with only seventeen patients in ICU throughout the country up here.....yet in excess of 180 deaths in England yesterday and over 800 new cases - proportionally far more. How can two neighbouring countries have such vastly differing statistics?


    Coronavirus: Expert says Scotland 'could be Covid-free by end of summer'

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    Scotland could eliminate coronavirus by the end of the summer if the decline in new cases continues, according to a public health expert.

    There were no confirmed deaths from the virus on Friday or Saturday.

    Prof Devi Sridhar, of Edinburgh University, said the country would effectively be Covid-free if that progress could be maintained.

    She said the challenge would then be how to stop new cases being imported....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53192024
     
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    It’s too soon to suggest our 155th-best in the world government haven’t done a fine job if that’s what you’re suggesting.
     
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    A few schools have also had to shut due to outbreaks but let's make it law that they have to go back!
     
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  18. Steelmonkey

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    School term finished up here on Friday, and no schools have opened since lockdown began.

    The government however have backtracked on their plans for staggered learning though (two days in for half the class, a deep clean on a Wednesday, then the second half of the class in for two days) and schools are expected to fully re-open on August 11.

    The colleges and universities are planning to start with distance learning until mid-October, unless it's a practical subject, then those classes will start in September. Thank ****, need to get my son back to some sort of normality!
     
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    This is what I do not understand. Schools are going to have restricted accesses for some students. However parents are willing to risk their kids health by taking them on an aeroplane for a holiday abroad or day trip to the seaside. I accept that the virus is slightly less passonable in the open air, but why would you risk going into an aeroplane, with recycled air to breath for a 2 to 4 hour flight. OR is this a way to track and trace people. IF you pay by plastic card rather than cash (which no one seems to want (happy to take your's if no longer needed :) ), then this is traceable. If you get ill on holiday or your return you see you doctor and then once your details are entered into a database then you name will ping up as a carrier.

    As so far as the idiots that are camping in lake district, day tripping to Southend and Bournemouth, maybe one councils should be empowered to impound vehicles rather than just ticket them. Secondly, if Leicester is going to be shut down, maybe legislation could be written and implemented for this to be UK wide? Maybe the Police could be empowered again to turn visitors away. .

    Also, if getting on an aeroplane is deemed safe, then surely access to a football ground is as well? But then crowds gather for illegal parties so what is the difference between them being in a football ground or in a park

    Im staying in, only going out for exercise and food. Maybe taking a drive round at times.
    I am more convinced of a second spike in the UK before end of year due to human behaviour
     
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