Off Topic Coronavirus

Enforce a closure then. Don’t leave businesses having to decide between keeping their staff and customers safe and trying to make some small income. It’s a cop-out to protect insurers.

 

Spot on again Goldie! Too many moaning at the government at every opportunity to score political points.
I had to get off Facebook as the amount of anti government and incorrect information was annoying me.
People just need to realise that This is changing daily and we have to adapt.

 

To be honest we are already shafted.

 

There must be doubt whether insurance would cover enforced shut downs due to a virus. Most insurance policies have force majeure clauses

 

Sadly, there are degrees of shafting, illustrated by how many die

 

Or by the degree that we, working in the NHS, are being put at risk.

 

Yes, that's a big one, Stainsey. You need to have the right equipment to isolate you from risk where possible. Hopefully it's on its way. Late, but no one could have predicted this virus situation

 

Thanks Staines & appreciate that

 

Yes mate, it’s a big problem at the moment that we are running out of PPE. This is compounded by the fact that we are using so much by having to attend ‘bullshit’ calls, where people should be following the advice that has been widely circulated and care for themselves.
We’ve been told that we are within our rights to refuse to attend jobs if we haven’t got the correct gear but easier said than done if it’s an arrest or something life threatening.

 

Sadly Goldie, ‘this virus situation’ has been predicted for many years and we have come close to it on several occasions this century. What we have chosen to do is not prepare for it by accepting the risk and hoping it doesn’t happen. The pandemic plans we have in place for a relatively benign virus (85% of the people who get it don’t even need treatment) are being exposed as inadequate not because of how deadly it is, but because of the huge % of the population which is predicted to get it, and our relatively old and unhealthy populace. The 15% needing treatment could be a very big number.

 

The "cry-wolfers" are total arseholes

 

I doubt there's a country on earth that was prepared for this, Stan. And, at the moment anyway, we're in a much better place than some

 

Is it not?

 

Update from here:

Contrary to reports of total lockdown on UK TV we are NOT in total lockdown, Yes the bars, restaurants, clubs, cinemas, theatres, gyms are shut but that just adheres to the guidelines of social gatherings outlined by the government. Businesses are still operating although staff asked to work from home where necessary, although latest radio news indicating that a general shut down of all non essential businesses may not be that far away......

Shops, banks, pharmacies are all open as normal and people are going about their daily business although adhering to the social distancing recommendations of 1m or 2m...….Tesco & Lidl have introduced opening hours especially for the elderly.....

There are no reports of hospitals being over whelmed just yet but all routine and out patient clinics have been cancelled.....

Nursing homes remain closed to visitors, not great when aged mother is in one but there isn't anything that can be done, she is in the safest place......

 

I work managing at a Hotel. Reservations pulling out, corporate clients cancelling and our events all pretty much postponing or wanting refunds.
We are batoning the hatches but very grim for hospitality in general. Not to mention for the staff.

 

Again correct. WHO said no country could prepare for this. I keep hearing about our NHS yet no one is mentioning the so called better health services abroad which are under the same pressure?

 

Those wonderful human beings at UEFA getting their bill in first, bunch of grasping c*nts...

 

Just going on numbers South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, Germany, Japan would all seem to be doing better than us. But it might be down to a whole variety of reasons - health services, government policy, demographics, culture. And it’s really hard to tell because the statistics are so dodgy, we have no idea how many people actually have/have had the virus, here or elsewhere. Anyway, it’s not a competition, is it?

South Korea, prepared for germ warfare launched by the North, must be the best prepared place on Earth, but probably at the cost of some citizens privacy.

WHO, with its grovelling to China which gifted us COVID-19 and will gift us more of the same in the future, is no longer a reliable source of information for me.

 

We don’t know yet. We do know that some of our stats on how we’d likely be equipped to handle this were poor versus other countries e.g. beds and doctors per capita.

I have absolutely no doubt that the people working to help us all will do everything they can and more. I do doubt they’re given the best tools they could have been given to do the job.