Off Topic Coronavirus
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He cares about no one but him self...that’s always been his problem.
From what I can see via Google the Govt appears to have stopped reporting on this after January.
Odd?
What are the odds on that........I will check with Priti
They stopped doing a lot of things in January! They were too busy making model's.......I think Boris was on with a bus, dont know if he got it finished mind.
She uses a abbottcus
I know it’s James OB so it doesn’t count but difficult to argue with this.
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So I see.....
The latest Public Health England (PHE) report published at 2pm on 30 January 2020, shows that seasonal flu continues to circulate across the UK, although activity is decreasing.
Maybe they’re just too busy?
I guess we can all draw our own conclusions. I’ll assume that all flu deaths are being classed as coronavirus deaths because it’s easier that way.
...or a patelculator?
Flu season has just about finished and it’s been a pretty benign one this year, apparently. And fortunately.
The first death attributed to coronavirus in the UK was end February. Plenty of data on flu this season
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-national-flu-reports-2019-to-2020-season
Interesting stuff on the all cause mortality report link on the same page. Massive spike week of 9 April. We have been in ‘excess death’ over expected figures in England for the last 3 weeks, except for those aged under 15.
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Sorry, I didn’t see this post and want to reply.
Firstly
I will never ‘weasel’ out of anything. I held my hands up last night and clarified what I was trying to say. Sadly for me when I don’t concentrate I make mistakes. If you don’t l believe what I say then tough luck. I don’t need to explain myself to you.
Secondly and most importantly you will not find a post of mine that hasn’t been supportive of my country. I have also championed the NHS.
Furthermore, I am supportive of the government because if they succeed we save lives, whereas you seem to not give a @@@@ about the lives, all you seem to be interested in is hoping the government fails so you can bitch about them.
Every day, whatever happens, you are moaning about the handling of this. Even when evidence is shown like that fab WHO article on PPE you turn a blind eye and don't accept it because it is supportive of what the government has been saying. From day one i said that if the government has made mistakes then that is for a later date. Now is not the time to criticise at every step. it’s about being sensible and obeying the guidelines.
You posted something recently which stuck in my mind…
Although contradictory the bit that stands out for me…
“But I'm certainly not sticking to the 'rules', which are daft”.
This tells me that you are not interested in others safety, because you’re ‘not sticking to the ‘rules’’.
Why is that? Because they are government rules and you don’t like them?
Also...
Your hatred for Boris blinds your judgment.
Boris, is a winner. He won Brexit, the election fight and more importantly the fight of his life.
I didn’t even see his speech yesterday as I spent the day in the garden drinking Rose (which by the way, was a very nice Languedoc for our wine fans). However what a fab speech and well done for naming the 2 nurses. Like my nurse friend, they probably won’t moan and will go back to doing a fab job. No, all the moaning comes from the usual lot who can't distinguish between politics and a human being.
your own words confirmed this the other day…
Seriously think about it mate. Why would anyone need to say this? You are better than that. Thankfully I am so pleased that no-one on here ‘liked’ the post because you would have to seriously ask why?
I will also tell you something which I am sure you will hate… but once this virus is over I think Boris will be more popular than he is now. I know he’s popularity went up by 30% recently and apparently his warm words yesterday have resonated well with the public. people will think twice before knocking him because he has been there, seen it, done it.
I said from early on that this is something unprecedented and every country around the world has had its struggles in some way. Even Korea and Germany are now having problems. I also said that it is changing daily and people have to adapt to the situation… yes, that includes the government. They like others they have probably changed their minds as this unfolds
you said in the early days that a
“lot of fuss” was being made and it “being over-exaggerated”. you compared this to “regular flu” and that regular flu was a bigger threat. I remember the post as you discussed having pneumonia twice.
My point is do you still believe that or like others have you changed your mind as this Pandemic worsens?
Until then I will wait for the inquiry and we can all bitch then.
Now I don't mind if you ZZZZZZZ my post as it's not just for you.
Once again to clarify to all posters, last night when I posted my wording came out wrong. It wasn't meant to sound that way and I confirmed that in the following post.
And I thought the politics thread was hard going!
Ellers, I resolved a while back not to respond to your posts because your logic is generally so twisted that it's impossible to have a sensible argument with you. Twice now I've fallen off that particular wagon, and I regret it, but I'll do my best to stick to that resolution in future. However, you've obviously spent a lot of time over this post, so it deserves a response.
Anyone who makes reasonable criticisms of the government's handling of this crisis, you describe as indulging in 'political point-scoring', yet the political bias in your own posts is plain for all to see - indeed the post to which I am currently replying is dripping with it. Criticism of the government is legitimate and necessary, it is not just point-scoring and it is not unpatriotic. Of course, the government should also be praised when it get things right and I think that the Chancellor's response, whilst not without flaws, was a good one.
You've made some personal attacks on me in your post by dredging up some posts that I have made in the past, to which I should also respond.
Firstly, you accuse me of not being concerned about others' safety because I don't stick to what I consider to be daft isolation rules. As I've already explained, I'm careful to avoid getting too close to people when I'm out, but I think that the guidelines are over-restrictive and are interpreted too literally by many. What's wrong with going out more than once a day, or sitting on a park bench when you are out, or driving to visit parents, all whist maintaining the appropriate distance? I have never knowingly endangered anyone.
You've carefully cut part of my post about the doctor who had sent an open letter to Johnson criticising the lack of adequate PPE for NHS staff. This poor man died of the virus and I was outraged at the fuss being made about Johnson whilst dedicated people such as this doctor were dying. I don't wish Johnson harm, and my post was probably over the top, but I stick by the sentiment behind it.
I did indeed say in the early days that the reaction to the virus in comparison to a 'regular' flu epidemic was exaggerated and I still believe this to a point. I can see that it was necessary to avoid everyone getting the virus at once, thus bringing the NHS to a standstill, but I was attracted to the herd immunity approach (as were you, I thought). As Trump said, 'why make the solution worse than the problem?' There were 28,000 deaths in this country from the 2014-15 flu epidemic and 10,000 so far attributed to Covid-19, yet there were no extreme measures back then, or even a campaign to get us to wash our hands more often as far as I can recall. I don't believe that the lockdown will actually prevent a significant number of deaths, it will merely delay them. The numbers of deaths caused by the economic fallout, however, will be far greater in my opinion.
Yes, there will be an inquiry, but why shouldn't people speak out now if they feel that the government is getting it wrong?
Judging by the eating thread it's likely that we're drinking a bit more than usual, I am for sure, usually we go dry during the week and a couple of bottles of wine over the weekend, now the odd G & T is being snuck in during the week......
I don't think I'm drinking more at home, so my total consumption must be down quite a bit.