I think you are forgetting that the economy is the means by which humanity lives, thrives and survives, and that without economic activity there is no science and no medicine.
Yahee! Selfish hedonism is alive and well and set to send us headfirst into another lockdown. ****ing Lemmings. You go with the herd if you want. I want to protect my family and friends.
And besides, most of my family have had both doses of their vaccine, it's just me, my sister and my brother in law to go. The "protect friends and family" reason is out the window now.
So it is **** the NHS then with their horrific backlog of urgent non covid patients to treat. They don't want a repeat of the events of the las 18 months nor do they want the risk of yet more mutations developing.
I say open the country but close the borders. That way we are in control on what is here and how we deal with it. IMHO it is the most stupid idea ever to allow foreign holidays.
The lack of border controls along with a reliable and comprehensive enforced test, trace and isolate program have been major contributors to the number of excess deaths. This is not hindsight as many government apologists claim. Other counties experiences and advice from science and the WHO amongst others were ignored by gungho handshaking spaffer Johnson and his incompetant sycophants. The delay in red listing India whilst a trade deal was/is being negotiated is responsible for the rising infection rate which may well curtail travel and other lockdown relaxations. Never mind being allowed foreign holidays the number of countries allowing anything besides essential travel is growing France, Germany the Netherlands etc. Enjoy the good weather we certain are, do it safe and sane.
You can do what you like. No one is telling you that you have to live your life and that you can't lock yourself away forever. You can't expect everyone to do that though.
Hold on here. I've put my life, and my families life on hold for the best part of 18 months now to protect family, friends, the elderly and the vulnerable. There comes a point where we all have to accept a little risk to actually live our lives as intended, not cowering indoors from a virus that most people recover from. I don't think some people understand the sacrifices the younger generation (more than any other) have made throughout this.
There's calculated risk, risk and ****wit risk. Proceed with caution and protect the vulnerable, not always the older groups not always obvious. We're a long way off preventing the mutations that could mean undoing the progress made. That's if the late red listing of India hasn't done it already.
I agree - 12 months ago not closing the borders and us saying to do it was 'acceptable' as there was no precedent. Now it it madness IMO. Close the borders, ban travel (except for really essential stuff like work or family deaths - and then control it with testing etc) and we can contain it and actually get back to a normalish life. For those that think it is easy for me to say, I used to go abroad 2-3 times a year and have my daughter and grandkids 4500 miles away and I still believe this is the best course of action.
How about the ultimate sacrifice made by those in care homes. 20000+ dead after untested patients were sent back to free up ICU beds.
Has to be the way to get on top of the pandemic so that the level of infections is below that which mutations happen. We're in the Netherlands desperately missing family and friends in the UK, Indonesia and the wider world. We had finalised details for a 2/3 months trip to Indonesia end of 2020 thankfully we hadn't booked before CV struck. I was also looking at a train/bus trip via Russia, *****lia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia and finally ferry to Indonesia. That would have been next year, heaven knows when it'll be possible.
I'm well aware of that. I do follow the news. Its an awful stat, I've never once said we're the only ones who've made sacrifices, but the good news there is we seem to be on top of that now.
We've 'seemed' to be on top of things in the past only to have the bastard virus bite our arses. Whether the Indian variant does the same we'll find out over the next couple of weeks.
One narrative I’m absolutely not buying into is the one which implies people died in care homes because too many people went to the beach/ stood too close to someone in Sainsbury’s/failed to wear a mask at the bus stop etc. Not having that at all.
It was because patients were sent back to care homes from hospitals without testing No one here claiming ill disciplined tosspots elsewhere caused care home deaths.
Yet you are still happy to label people whose lives you know nothing about, “ill disciplined tosspots”. Thus buying into a palpably false narrative the purpose of which is deflect blame away from the decision makers, and towards, for example, some woman with four kids in a council flat.
Not at all you've got the wrong end of the stick entirely. My posts lay the blame firmly in those hands that allowed discharge without testing. My criticism of the way the pandemic was handled by the incompetent government is a matter of record here and elsewhere. The ill disciplined tosspots remark was tongue in cheek as in no way references a woman with four kids in a council flat. I'm at a loss to understand how you made that connection.
