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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by - Doing The Lambert Walk, Mar 12, 2020.
We still have the highest death rate in the world, so don’t get too jingoistic Tom.
Before you start crowing, perhaps you would like to read this. This is from an email I just received from a friend who is a retired GP, whose whole family had Covid back in August-September.
“I am very aware that all is not going well with the vaccination programme; my paperwork is taking forever to get completed so that I can assist locally. I fear more delays are ahead before we are all vaccinated. There simply isn't the supply coming through as yet, I gather there are a number of supply/production problems currently.
Having attended too many funerals of friends and relatives in the last six months I am not keen to see any relaxation in our restrictions for some months to come, particularly as we still have our 22 year old convalescing from Long-Covid.
Sorry to sound so pessimistic, I'm sure its getting us all down at times.”
Lets park it there, I don't think even you comprehend what you're saying so there's little chance that I'll understand. If you get some perverse form of satisfaction out of us performing better than the EU on the vaccination front enjoy it but I find that to be pathetically sad.
It’s not crowing though is it. It’s just being a little bit positive about our efforts in the face of perpetual negativity and jibing
I think you’ll find I have been supportive of the government’s efforts, when they have deserved it.
That’s great. I wasn’t knocking you
“Let’s park it there”. But not before I have the last word and patronise you!
Spaffer and his mates can claim no credit for the success with the inoculation programme. This was down to the fact that he had no option, despite his wanting to place a contract for his mates to make loads a money, but to place the responsibility of the delivery with the proper NHS not some cowboy outfit run by his mate Dildo with NHS stuck on the front to give it some sort of credibility.
yep. He can on and said he was feeling better
Ferret it’s worth, I thought that was pretty good
oh balls.... too slow again
Only one study, but that's a pretty extraordinary claimed success rate.
Don't think he's necessarily crowing but I remember lots of posts about how we were stupid to go our own way instead of joining the EU procurement. Not really turned out like that though.
I'm sure there'll be bumps in the road to come, but it's undoubtedly going well so far. Only fair to say when something has gone right if people have spent a year moaning about everything they've got wrong (which there is a lot of).
It is a success because Johnson couldn't place the contract for rolling out the virus with one of his incompetent Tory funding chums because it needed specialist staff and they were only available in the NHS. it is they who deserve all the credit. Imagine the ****ing chaos if his best chum the unbelievably incompetent Dido had been given the contract. We would still be waiting for the first injection and tens of thousands would have been turned away because of her failed system
The success of the vaccination programme is not a feather in this useless Government's cap it is all due to the professionalism of OUR NHS.
The NHS weren't procuring the doses almost a year ago were they? It's also a good decision to get the military involved.
Yes, interesting but unpublished so presuming no peer review. Have the manufacturers come up with any new research? A quick search found this from the BMJ
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/2...e-second-dose-of-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/ The last paragraph pasted below concerns me being >70.
The current UK strategy with the Pfizer mRNA vaccine is, in our view, a non-randomised, uncontrolled population experimental study without pilot data. The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JVCI) and Public Health England should be prepared to revisit and, if necessary, reverse their decisions based on emerging scientific evidence. At the time of writing a statement released by Israeli officials has indicated that “real world” analysis of 200,000 people age >60 years, who have had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, shows efficacy of 33%, far less than the 89% stated by the JCVI. These new real world data suggest that the UK should reconsider the decision to delay the second dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech.
Herb F Sewell, Emeritus Professor of Immunology and Consultant immunologist, University of Nottingham.
John FR Robertson, Professor of Surgery and Consultant Surgeon, University of Nottingham.
Marcia Stewart, Social Care professional and emeritus academic BA(Hons) De Montfort University.
Denise Kendrick, Professor of Primary Care Research and General Practitioner, University of Nottingham.
Sheila M Bird, formerly programme leader at the MRC Biostatistics Unit in Cambridge.
Competing interests: None declared
Declaration of interests: All authors are current or intended recipients of covid-19 vaccines. SMB and HFS have served on UK Medicines Commission from 1990s and 2000s respectively. Both have doctors as family members.
More here, https://horizon-magazine.eu/article...aying-gap-between-covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
Cricket grabbing my attention just now.