Oh yes i know tax rises are coming and i think it should be set on age groups. I mean those that caused it more should pay more.
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As most of you know I’m not Bojo’s biggest fan, but do I blame him for where we are? He had his head in the sand in February but this time round?
I think the Dom Cummings incident eroded trust in people taking lockdown measures seriously. Since then I think there were too many Ill-explained over-complicated messages/guidelines/tiers. I think it’s naive to expect adherence to them anyway.
I think the public has Grown apathetic. Much of which was inevitable.
The govt should have communicated a strategy, but they don’t appear to have had one.
Despite all that, it’s a moving feast, a new challenge to deal with and there is conflicting evidence/information to work with.
They tried a few things it didn’t work, so they’ve done what they think they have to. Is it the right strategy? Well that will be easier with hindsight, but who’d be a PM now. Tough choices.
I think he’s a useless amoral self serving prick and he’s stumbled through this like the bumbling oaf he is, but would the actual situation be dramatically different with someone else in charge? Probably not.
I think the Dom Cummings incident eroded trust in people taking lockdown measures seriously. Since then I think there were too many Ill-explained over-complicated messages/guidelines/tiers. I think it’s naive to expect adherence to them anyway.
I think the public has Grown apathetic. Much of which was inevitable.
The govt should have communicated a strategy, but they don’t appear to have had one.
Despite all that, it’s a moving feast, a new challenge to deal with and there is conflicting evidence/information to work with.
They tried a few things it didn’t work, so they’ve done what they think they have to. Is it the right strategy? Well that will be easier with hindsight, but who’d be a PM now. Tough choices.
I think he’s a useless amoral self serving prick and he’s stumbled through this like the bumbling oaf he is, but would the actual situation be dramatically different with someone else in charge? Probably not.
The Cummings incident is **** all compared to what that prick Neil Ferguson did, heres a man who has got almost everything wrong his stupid computer modelling predictions predicted for the last 20 years, science my arse, he didnt believe them himself or else he wouldn't have been visiting an old slag to get his end away, what was it he said, half a million would die?.
Why won't the government listen to other leading, well respected scientists who all say this **** is wrong.
Theres something else behind this
Im gobsmacked people are still buying it.
https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-inf...rt-1-smoking-related-ill-health-and-mortality
Smoking related deaths and hospital admissions, cigarettes are still permitted to be sold, it’s not illegal to smoke, adults can make their own decisions, compared to Covid we’re not allowed to decide if we feel safe or vulnerable
Smoking related deaths and hospital admissions, cigarettes are still permitted to be sold, it’s not illegal to smoke, adults can make their own decisions, compared to Covid we’re not allowed to decide if we feel safe or vulnerable
I heard something very interesting today.
We are protecting the richer and less vulnerable who are able to work from home at the expense of the working class who aren't able to work from home.
I also heard it asked why we spend billions on furlough payments for a vast amount of the workforce rather than targeting payments. For example furlough everyone over 60, no matter what they do, and invest in measures to shield the most vulnerable.
Nah, that would be too sensible.
We are protecting the richer and less vulnerable who are able to work from home at the expense of the working class who aren't able to work from home.
I also heard it asked why we spend billions on furlough payments for a vast amount of the workforce rather than targeting payments. For example furlough everyone over 60, no matter what they do, and invest in measures to shield the most vulnerable.
Nah, that would be too sensible.
Only trouble with that is what do you do about all the NHS workers
And other front line workers who are over 60
Bet they won’t be exempt from the tax rises that will eventually pay for it all
Surely the BREXIT bonus and surge in GDP as a result of doing your own thing will pay for all of this?
Too soon, Wrong thread?
Ah so you admit that the EU are going to be the ones that are better off?
Great explanation, it's pretty obvious why the government don't listen to him, he talks too much sense.
OK but why would the government want to close down the country and add billions of pounds to debt if there was a viable alternative or in fact no reason to do it at all? (No I didn't watch the whole clip but the views of a GP as compared to expert views of an epidemiologist or even a virologist)
"The views of a GP"
Would you rather take the advice from Neil Ferguson?
This lockdown is based on Doom and Doomers (whitty and Vallance) scenarios fo'fuxake
No, seriously, Carl Heneghan is a GP OK he is the director of evidence based medicine as well but according to the BMJ this isn't altogether an accepted area of medicine"The views of a GP"
Would you rather take the advice from Neil Ferguson?
This lockdown is based on Doom and Doomers (whitty and Vallance) scenarios fo'fuxake
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Average flu deaths in the uk since 2015 = 15000
COVID 19 deaths so far this year = 47250
COVID 19 deaths so far this year = 47250
The majority of those 'covid' deaths had underlying serious illnesses according to some stats
I don't know anyone who knows anyone that have died just from the virus
I do know since march of six people close to me, who have died from cancer, my mother being one of them who passed away in august and she did not receive the treatment she deserved.
One lad was in his 20's, two in their 40's were receiving treatment that i know of
Probably why i'm a cynical bastard .....
and i can smell bullshit a mile away